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The Audit Meeting meeting scheduled for 2024-06-20 at Pier 69

  • GOOD MORNING
  • THIS IS COMMISSIONED VICE PRESIDENT TOSHIKO HASEGAWA CALLING TO ORDER THE PORT OF SEATTLE AUDIT COMMITTEE SPECIAL MEETING TODAY'S THURSDAY, JUNE 20, 2024, AND THE TIME IS EXACTLY 10:00 A.M
  • WE'RE MEETING TODAY HEADQUARTERS, COMMISSION CHAMBERS AND VIRTUALLY VIA MICROSOFT TEAMS PRESENT WITH ME TODAY IS COMMISSIONER RYAN CALKINS AS OUR PUBLIC SERVING MEMBER SARAH HOLMSTROM TO MAKE THIS MEETING MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC
  • THE MEETING IS BEING LIVE STREAMED AND DIGITALLY RECORDED AND MAY BE VIEWED OR HEARD AT ANY TIME ON THE PORT'S WEBSITE
  • A CALL AND TELEPHONE NUMBER IS ALSO PROVIDED FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO LISTEN TO THE MEETING
  • NOW, OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF OUR LAST MEETING, MINUTES FROM MARCH 28, 2024
  • AS A REMINDER TO THE VIEWING AUDIENCE, THE PUBLIC MEMBER OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS NOT A VOTING MEMBER FOR THE PURPOSES OF CASTING VOTES ON MOTIONS MADE PER THE COMMITTEE'S RULES
  • SO ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE
  • ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED? HEARING NONE
  • THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AND WE CAN GO STRAIGHT INTO OUR FIRST PRESENTATION
  • WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF THE WASHINGTON STATE AUDITORIUM PRESENTING ON PERFORMANCE AUDIT RESULTS ON CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE
  • WE HAVE TANYA FLEMING, THE PRINCIPAL PERFORMANCE AUDITOR, AS WELL AS SAHARA MONAHAN, SENIOR PERFORMANCE AUDITOR
  • SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND JOIN US, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY
  • YOU HAVE THE FLOOR
  • GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
  • THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR AUDIT REPORT
  • I AM SOHARA MONAHAN, SENIOR PERFORMANCE AUDITOR WITH THE OFFICE OF THE WASHINGTON STATE AUDITOR, AND WITH ME TODAY IS TANIA FLEMINGS, PRINCIPAL PERFORMANCE AUDITOR
  • BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ONCE AGAIN TO STAFF AND MANAGEMENT AT THE PORT OF SEATTLE FOR THEIR FULL COOPERATIONS AND ASSISTANCE THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS AUDIT
  • THIS PERFORMANCE AUDIT EXAMINED THE CHARACTERISTICS OF CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES CONDUCTED IN WASHINGTON
  • IT ALSO IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS DUE PROCESS CONCERNS FOR PEOPLE FACING CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE
  • NEXT, THE AUDIT INCLUDED EIGHT AGENCIES, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE, FOUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THE BOARD OF SEATTLE PDV IN ONE OF THEM, TWO SHERIFF OFFICES, AND ONE STATE AGENCY IN ONE TASK FORCE
  • NEXT, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BEFORE GETTING INTO THE DETAILS
  • CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE IS A LEGAL TOOL THAT ALLOWS THE POLICE TO SEIZE AND FORFEIT PROPERTY THAT THEY BELIEVE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN OR IS THE PROCEEDS OF A CRIME
  • BACK IN THE 1980S, THIS TOOL WAS INTENDED TO DETER CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS DRUG CARTELS AND LARGE SCALE DRUG DISTRIBUTORS
  • BUT THE USE OF THE TOOL HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME TO DETER ANY LEVEL OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY EXAMPLES OF PROPERTY THAT POLICE CAN SEIZE AND FORFEIT WITH THIS TOOL INCLUDE CASH, EQUIPMENT, VEHICLES, HOMES AND PERSONAL ITEMS UNDER WASHINGTON DRUG FORFEITURE STATUTE, WHICH IS THE ONE POLICE AGENCIES MOST FREQUENTLY USED, AND THE EMPHASIS FOR THIS AUDIT, THE POLICE CAN SEIZE AND FORFEIT PROPERTY WITHOUT SECURING AN ARREST, CHARGE OR CRIMINAL CONVICTION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER
  • DURING THE REVIEW PERIOD, POLICE AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE RECEIVED NEARLY 40 MILLION IN REVENUE FROM CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES
  • NEXT, SEVERAL STATES HAVE EXAMINED THE USE OF CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES AND RAISED SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS THAT HAVE LED TO LEGISLATIVE REFORMS ABOUT HOW THAT TOOL IS USED
  • WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE REFORMS LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT A FEW EXAMPLES OF THOSE KEY CONCERNS INCLUDE THE LACK OF A CRIMINAL CONVICTION REQUIREMENT TO DEPRIVE PEOPLE OF THEIR PROPERTY, THE INHERENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT EXISTS WHEN THE SAME POLICE AGENCY THAT SEES THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO ALLOWED TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO RETAIN THAT PROPERTY, AND THE DISPROPORTIONATE EFFECT CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE HAS ON SOME RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUPS
  • NEXT SO WE EXAMINED THE USE OF CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE IN WASHINGTON TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTERISTICS OF CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES CONDUCT AND TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS DUE PROCESS CONCERNS WITH WASHINGTON CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE SYSTEM
  • NEXT THIS SLIDE HAS HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF OUR KEY RESULTS
  • WE FOUND THAT THE POLICE AGENCIES ON THIS AUDIT PRIMARILY USE CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE TO SEIZE CASH IN OTHER PROPERTY OF LOW MONETARY VALUE AND SOME COMMUNITIES CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED SOME RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUPS
  • THE STATE CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE LAWS GIVE THE POLICE BROAD AUTHORITY TO CEASE AND FORFEIT PROPERTY AND FEW PROTECTIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS
  • THE POLICE AGENCIES IN THIS AUDIT FOLLOW DUE PROCESS REQUIREMENTS IN STATE LAW, BUT WE FIND THEY CAN DO MORE TO HELP ENSURE THAT PEOPLE RECEIVE NOTICE OF THE POLICE INTENT TO FORFEIT PROPERTY AND TO HELP PEOPLE BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO RECLAIM THEIR PROPERTY
  • AND LAST, STATE LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE POLICE AGENCIES TO COLLECT KEY DATA ON CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES NOR MAKE THE DATA THEY DO COLLECT AVAILABLE ONLINE, BOTH STEPS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY
  • IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE TYPE OF PROPERTY POLICE AGENCIES SEIZE, THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY AND FROM WHOM POLICE AGENCIES ARE SEIZING PROPERTY
  • WE FOUND THAT CASH IS THE MOST COMMON TYPE OF PROPERTY POLICE AGENCIES SEIZED FROM PROPERTY OWNERS
  • IT ACCOUNTED FOR NEARLY THREE FOUR OF ALL PROPERTY SEIZED DURING THE REVIEW PERIOD
  • AGENCY OFFICIALS SAID THAT OFFICERS PRIMARILY SEIZE CASH BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST COMMON TYPE OF EVIDENCE OF SUSPECTED ILLEGAL ACTIVITY THEY FIND AT THE SCENE THE PORT OF SEATTLE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER AGENCIES ON THIS AUDIT REGARDING THAT TYPE OF PROPERTY SEIZED IN THAT THE PORT OF SEATTLE ONLY SEES CATCH DURING THE REVIEW PERIOD, WHILE THE OTHER AGENCIES, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC, SEES A VARIETY OF ITEMS NEXT WHEN EXAMINING THE VALUE OF PROPERTY SEIZED, WE FOUND THAT MORE THAN HALF OF ALL CIVILIZED FORFEITURE CASES INVOLVE PROPERTY WORTH LESS THAN $2,000
  • WHILE SOME HIGH DOLLAR VALUE CASES DID OCCUR, ONE AGENCY, THE PORT OF CLPD, ACCOUNTED FOR MOST OF THE HIGH DOLLAR VALUE CASES PRIMARILY DUE TO ITS JURISDICTION AT THE SEATTLE TACOMA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT
  • 98% OF THE CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE CASES FOR THE PORT OF SEATTLE PDE INVOLVED CASH VALUED AT $8,000 OR MORE
  • NEXT
  • SO VARIOUS FACTORS CONTRIBUTE TO THAT TREND WHEN NOTED FOR MOST OF THE AGENCIES IN THIS AUDIT OF LOW VALUE PROPERTY SEIZURES, INCLUDING THE NATURE OF COMMON CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE SEIZURES HAPPEN, SUCH AS AT A TRAFFIC STOP WHEN THE POLICE PULL SOMEONE OVER FOR A TRAFFIC INFRACTION, OR DURING A POLICE ENCOUNTER WITH SOMEONE THAT IS SUSPECTED OF SELLING DRUGS ON THE STREET, OR THROUGH A POLICE INVESTIGATION OF SOMEBODY THAT IS SUSPECTED OF GROWING CANNABIS ON THEIR HOME
  • SOME AGENCY OFFICIALS SAID THAT THEY FIND LOW VALUE PROPERTY SEIZURES WITH CLEAR OWNERSHIP EASIER TO PROVE COMPARED TO LIKE LARGE SCALE CASES THAT INVOLVE TRAFFICKERS THAT ARE SKILL ELEVATING DETECTIONS
  • AND LAST, LOW VALUE PROPERTY SEIZURES MAY BE MORE COMMON BECAUSE NEITHER A STATE LAW NOR INTERNAL AGENCY POLICIES FORBID THEM
  • NEXT, THE POLICE AGENCIES ON THIS AUDIT DO NOT COLLECT DATA ON THE RACE AND ETHNICITY OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THEIR PROPERTY SEIZED
  • SO TO IDENTIFY WHO IS AFFECTED BY CIVILIZED FORFEITURES, WE USE A METHOD THAT ANALYZES US CENSUS DATA ON SURNAMES AND RACIAL AND ETHNIC MAKEUP OF GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE LEAVE TO PREDICT SOMEONE'S PROBABLE RACE AND ETHNICITY
  • THIS METHOD HAS BEEN USED BY RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE CONSUMER FINANCIAL PROTECTION BUDDHA, WHEN DATA ON PEOPLE'S RACE AND ETHNICITY IS NOT AVAILABLE, IT'S THE SAME METHOD THE STATE AUDITOR USED TO ESTIMATE THE RACE AND ETHNICITY OF VOTERS IN THE REJECTED BALLOTS PERFORMANCE AUDIT
  • NEXT, WE FOUND THAT IN SOME COMMUNITIES, CERTAIN RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUPS EXPERIENCE CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES AT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER RATES WHEN COMPARED TO THEIR PRESENCE IN THE LOCAL POPULATION
  • FOR EXAMPLE, WITH FIVE OF THE AUDITED AGENCIES, WHICH INCLUDE THE PART OF SEATTLE, THE SHARE OF CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES THAT INCLUDED PEOPLE WHO WERE BLACK, HISPANIC, OR OF ASIAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER DESCENT SURPASSED THEIR REPRESENTATION IN THE LOCAL POPULATION BY MORE THAN TEN PERCENTAGE POINTS
  • WITH TWO OF THE AUDITED AGENCIES, THE SHARE OF CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES INVOLVING PEOPLE WHO WERE WHITE SURPASSED THEIR REPRESENTATION IN THE LOCAL POPULATION BY NINE PERCENTAGE POINTS
  • NEXT, ALL OF THE AGENCIES IN THIS AUDIT HAD AT LEAST ONE RACIAL OR ETHNIC GROUP THAT WAS OVERREPRESENTED IN THEIR CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE CASES, BUT THAT DEGREE OF OVER REPRESENTATION VARIED BY AGENCY AND BY GROUP
  • FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE PORT OF SEATTLE PD, PEOPLE OF ASIAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER DESCENT WERE OVERREPRESENTED BY JUST ONE PERCENTAGE POINT COMPARED TO BLACK PEOPLE, WHO WERE OVERREPRESENTED BY 17 PERCENTAGE POINTS
  • NEXT, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, A KEY CONCERN ABOUT CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES IS THE LACK OF A CRIMINAL CONVICTION REQUIREMENT TO DEPRIVE PEOPLE OF THEIR PROPERTY
  • WE FOUND THAT OF THE NEARLY 1000 PEOPLE THAT FACED CIVILIZED FORFEITURES WITH THE AUDITED AGENCIES, ONLY 25% OF THEM WERE CONVICTED OF A CRIME RELATED TO THAT FORFEITURE
  • NEXT, THE CONVICTION RATE DID VARY SIGNIFICANTLY BY AGENCIES
  • FOR EXAMPLE, THE GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY DRUG TASK FORCE AND THE CENTRALIA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD THE HIGHEST CONVICTION RATE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC
  • IN CONTRAST, THE PORT OF SEATTLE PD HAD NOW CONVICTIONS RELATED TO FORFEITURES
  • DURING THE REVIEW PERIOD, AGENCY OFFICIALS SAID THAT THIS IS BECAUSE PEOPLE TRANSPORT MONEY AND DRUGS SEPARATE THROUGH THE AIRPORT AND CONVICTIONS USUALLY HAPPEN WHEN DRUGS ARE FOUND
  • I'M GOING TO PASS THE PRESENTATION TO TANIA, WHO IS GOING TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF ASPECTS OF STATE LAW AND AGENCY'S PROCESSES WHERE WE IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES TO STRENGTHEN PROTECTIONS FOR PROPERTY OWNERSHIP
  • THANK YOU
  • THERE ARE THREE STRUCTURAL ASPECTS OF STATE LAW THAT I'LL FOCUS ON TODAY
  • THE FIRST IS A LOW STANDARD OF EVIDENCE
  • THE SECOND IS HOW, IN MOST CASES, FORFEITURE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY THE POLICE AGENCY
  • AND LAST, HOW PROCEEDS FROM FORFEITURE CASES CAN CREATE A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE
  • STATE LAW STATE LAW GIVES POLICE BROAD AUTHORITY BY HAVING A RELATIVELY LOW STANDARD OF EVIDENCE, KNOWN AS A PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE
  • THIS MEANS THAT EVIDENCE MUST ONLY SHOW THAT IT IS MORE LIKELY THAN NOT THAT PROPERTY WAS USED FOR OR WAS BOUGHT WITH PROCEEDS FROM A CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
  • 29 STATES AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA REQUIRE A HIGHER STANDARD OF EVIDENCE THAN WASHINGTON
  • AS SEEN IN THE NEXT SLIDE, THEY REQUIRE UP TO A CRIMINAL CONVICTION BEFORE FORFEITING PROPERTY
  • THESE HIGHER STANDARDS OF EVIDENCE ARE MEANT TO PROVIDE GREATER PROTECTIONS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS
  • NEXT, SLIDE
  • ONE ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF DUE PROCESS
  • I THINK I'VE GOT THE WRONG SLIDE UP HERE
  • CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE 17? OH, THAT IS SLIDE 17
  • OKAY
  • WELL, ONE ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF DUE PROCESS IS TO ENSURE THAT CASES ARE HEARD BY AN IMPARTIAL DECISION MAKER
  • HOWEVER, STATE LAW GIVES BROAD AUTHORITY TO POLICE AGENCIES BY ALLOWING THE SAME AGENCY THAT SEIZES PROPERTY TO ALSO DECIDE IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO KEEP IT
  • WE REVIEWED 40 FORFEITURE CASES DURING OUR REVIEW PERIOD, AND IN ALMOST ALL, SOMEONE EMPLOYED BY OR CONTRACTED BY THE AGENCY MADE THE DECISION THAT THEY HAD ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO KEEP THE PROPERTY FOR THE PORT
  • SPECIFICALLY, THE CHIEF OF POLICE OR DESIGNEE DECIDED CASES THAT WERE NOT CONTESTED
  • CONTRACTED HEARING EXAMINER DECIDED CASES WHEN THE CLAIMANT REQUESTED A HEARING
  • STATE LAW ALSO ALLOWS POLICE TO FORFEIT OR DISPOSE OF SEIZED PROPERTY BY DEFAULT
  • THIS TYPICALLY HAPPENS IF A PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT FILE A CLAIM OR IF THEY FILE A CLAIM LATE
  • FOR MANY OF THE CASES THAT WE REVIEWED, AGENCIES RETAINED PROPERTY BY DEFAULT BECAUSE AN OWNER DID NOT FILE A CLAIM
  • STATUTE ALSO ALLOWS THESE CASES TO BE DECIDED JUDICIALLY BY A COURT, BUT THIS ONLY HAPPENS IF A PROPERTY KNOWS THAT THIS IS AN OPTION AND THEY USE THAT OPTION AND THEY REQUEST THAT OPTION
  • EXCUSE ME
  • IN THE CASES WE REVIEWED, NO PROPERTY OWNERS HAD THEIR CASE REVIEWED BY COURT
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • SOME STATES HAVE ADDRESSED CONFLICT OF INTEREST CONCERNS BY REQUIRING THAT AGENCIES INDEPENDENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT MAKE FORFEITURE DECISIONS
  • THEY REQUIRE THAT THESE CASES GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM OR ANOTHER ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS INSTEAD OF THE POLICE AGENCY
  • HERE IN WASHINGTON, JUST ONE STATE AGENCY, THE STATE PATROL, FOLLOWS A HYBRID APPROACH THAT PARTIALLY ADDRESSES THESE CONCERNS BY HAVING A SEPARATE STATE AGENCY, THE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATION
  • ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS, DECIDE SOME OF THE CASES IF AN OWNER FILES A CLAIM AND REQUESTS A HEARING
  • IN ALL OTHER CASES, STATE PATROL MAKES THOSE DECISIONS
  • NO OTHER AGENCY THAT WE AUDITED USES THAT HYBRID APPROACH
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • THIS THIRD AND LAST AREA OF LAW THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT PROVIDES POLICE BROAD AUTHORITY AND CREATES CONCERNS ABOUT FINANCIAL INCENTIVES
  • STATE LAW ALLOWS AGENCIES TO KEEP KEEP 90% OF THE PROCEEDS FROM FORFEITURES
  • THE REMAINING 10% GOES TO THE STATE TREASURER'S OFFICE
  • COMBINED, THE EIGHT AGENCIES REPORTED RECEIVING MORE THAN $13 MILLION FROM CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES DURING THE REVIEW PERIOD
  • TO BE CLEAR, THIS WAS NOT A PARTICULARLY LARGE SHARE OF THEIR REVENUE
  • FOR MOST OF THESE AGENCIES, THIS REPRESENTED A FAIRLY SMALL AMOUNT, TYPICALLY LESS THAN 1% OF THE AGENCY'S TOTAL SPENDING
  • IN THE CASE OF THE PORT OF SEATTLE, THIS REPRESENTED ABOUT 7% OF THEIR TOTAL EXPENDITURES
  • MOST AGENCIES SAID THEY USE THOSE PROCEEDS TO BUY ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT FOR SALARIES AND OTHER OPERATING COSTS
  • FOR THE PORT OF SEATTLE, THEY REPORTED USING THESE FUNDS FOR DETECTIVE WAGES, NARCOTICS INVESTIGATIONS AND TRAINING, HEARING EXAMINER FEES, AND ALSO LIFESAVING TOOLS
  • SOME STATES AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA HAVE TRIED TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS BY REQUIRING THAT ALL OR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THOSE FUNDS ARE DEPOSITED INTO NEUTRAL ACCOUNTS THAT AREN'T MANAGED BY POLICE
  • THESE MIGHT INCLUDE THINGS LIKE A SUBSTANCE USE CONTROL PROGRAM, VICTIM COMPENSATION FUNDS, OR EVEN THE EDUCATION OR GENERAL FUND
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • NOW I'LL WALK THROUGH HOW AGENCIES MEASURE UP AGAINST STATE REQUIREMENTS AROUND DUE PROCESS
  • AS A QUICK SUMMARY, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WHERE AGENCIES WEREN'T FOLLOWING THE LAW
  • POLICE AGENCIES ESSENTIALLY NEED TO DO TWO THINGS BEFORE THEY CAN FORFEIT PROPERTY
  • TWO MAJOR THINGS AT LEAST
  • FIRST IS TO SEND A NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEN SECOND, INFORM THE OWNER THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO A HEARING
  • IN THE 40 CASES THAT WE LOOKED AT ACROSS ALL OF THE AGENCIES WE REVIEWED, THEY GENERALLY FOLLOWED THESE AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS
  • NEXT SLIDE SO WE KNOW THAT AGENCIES FOLLOWED STATE LAWS, BUT EXPERTS RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL PRACTICES TO HELP PROVIDE CIVIL PROTECTIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS
  • THESE AREN'T REQUIRED BY ANY MEANS, BUT THEY WOULD PROVIDE MORE PROTECTIONS TO OWNERS
  • THEY SUGGEST, FIRST, MAKING SURE THAT NOTICES ARE DELIVERED
  • SECOND, MAKING SURE THAT NOTICES ARE UNDERSTANDABLE SO THAT OWNERS KNOW HOW TO RECLAIM THEIR PROPERTY
  • WE FOUND SOME STRONG INDICATIONS THAT SOME PEOPLE DID NOT RECEIVE THIS NOTICE
  • OF THE 40 CASES WE REVIEWED, FIBER RETURNED AND NEARLY 10% HAD MISSING ITEMS LIKE ZIP CODES OR BUILDING NUMBERS, GIVING SOME INDICATIONS THAT THEY WERE NOT DELIVERED OR RECEIVED
  • IN OTHER CASES, TO IMPROVE THE CHANCES OF SUCCESSFUL DELIVERY, WE FOUND THAT SOME AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE PORT, DELIVERED NOTICES IN PERSON OR SENT CERTIFIED LETTERS, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH LEADING PRACTICES
  • ONLY A FEW AGENCIES HAD PRACTICES TO MAKE THEIR NOTICES UNDERSTANDABLE, INCLUDING MAKING IT STANDARD PRACTICE TO PROVIDE NOTICES IN LANGUAGES OTHER THAN ENGLISH AND ALSO USING PLAIN TALK STANDARDS
  • NONE MENTION RIGHTS LIKE THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING ATTORNEY'S FEES REIMBURSED IF THE PROPERTY OWNER PREVAILS
  • NEXT SLIDE AGENCIES ARE REQUIRED TO SEND REPORTS TO THE STATE TREASURER EVERY QUARTER WITH LIMITED INFORMATION LIKE BASIC DESCRIPTIONS OF PROPERTY FORFEITED AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY RECEIVED
  • LEADING PRACTICES, HOWEVER, SUGGEST THAT THEY ALSO INCLUDE TRACKING DETAILED DATA AND TRACKING HOW PROCEEDS ARE SPENT, AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THOSE STATEWIDE REPORTS ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ONLINE
  • ASIDE FROM THE LIMITED DATA THAT AGENCIES REPORT, WASHINGTON DOES NOT REQUIRE COLLECTING OR REPORTING ANY OF THESE OTHER ITEMS NEXT SLIDE WE MADE A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE LEGISLATURE AND POLICE AGENCIES, MORE DETAILS OF WHICH ARE AVAILABLE IN OUR REPORT, BUT AS A SUMMARY, WE RECOMMEND THE LEGISLATURE CONVENE A WORKGROUP TO ADDRESS ISSUES SUCH AS PRACTICES AROUND CONFLICT OF INTEREST CONCERNS AND WHO MAKES FORFEITURE DECISIONS, POTENTIAL FINANCIAL INCENTIVES AND PRACTICES AROUND DELIVERING NOTICES AND MAKING THEM UNDERSTANDABLE
  • IN ADDITION TO THAT WORK GROUP, WE RECOMMEND THAT AGENCIES DEVELOP WRITTEN GUIDANCE FOR DELIVERING NOTICES, SEND NOTICES IN PLAIN TALK AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO OWNERS ABOUT ESSENTIAL RIGHTS
  • ONE NOTE THAT I LIKE TO OFFER ABOUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE CONSIDERED THEM BROAD ENOUGH THAT WE RECOMMEND
  • WE ESSENTIALLY RECOMMEND THAT ALL AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE CONSIDER THE PRACTICES THAT WE PROVIDE THROUGHOUT THE REPORT
  • WITH THAT THAT ENDS OUR PREPARED COMMENTS AND ARE HAPPY TO SEE THE REST OF ANY TIME THAT WE HAVE TO
  • BACK TO YOU
  • WELL, THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH
  • I THINK AT THIS TIME, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE SOME QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE DAIS
  • BEGIN WITH MISS HOLMSTROM
  • NO QUESTIONS
  • COMMISSIONER HOBBITS
  • OKAY, I'VE GOT A FEW
  • IT SEEMS LIKE I REALLY HAD WRITTEN NOTES ABOUT
  • SORT OF FEELS LIKE WE'VE GOT TWO AREAS WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
  • ONE IS RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE LEGISLATURE AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US INDIVIDUALLY AT THE PORT OF SEATTLE AND OUR POLICE AGENCY
  • AND SINCE YOUR WRAP UP WAS REALLY HELPFUL, ANSWERED SOME OF MY QUESTIONS
  • I AM CURIOUS ABOUT OUR PARTICULAR SAMPLE SET OF FORFEITURES
  • SO, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA THAT YOU PROVIDED, KIND OF IN AGGREGATE, IS THAT THE PROPORTIONS THAT YOU SHOWED, IS THAT LET'S SAY, A POLICE AGENCY REPRESENTING, LET'S SAY IT'S THE KING COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE
  • SO THEIR SAMPLE SET WOULD BE EVERYONE
  • ALL FORFEITURES THAT THEY TOOK WITHIN A LARGER POPULATION, AND THE POPULATION BREAKDOWN BY DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP IN KING COUNTY
  • LET'S SEE IF I AM FOLLOWING YOU
  • I THINK IT'S SLIDE TWELVE
  • I THINK IF THAT'S THE DEMOGRAPHIC RESULTS
  • KEEP GOING BACK A COUPLE MORE
  • LET ME FIND IT
  • OH, MAYBE THAT WAS THE ONE I WAS LOOKING AT
  • YEAH, I THINK MY
  • TO GET TO THE HEART OF MY QUESTION
  • OKAY
  • SO FOR MOST OF OUR ANALYSIS, WE ASKED AGENCIES TO PROVIDE US WITH ALL CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES THEY CONDUCTED DURING THE THREE YEAR REVIEW PERIOD OF 2020 TO 2022
  • SO IT WOULD HAVE INCLUDED ALL OF THEIR FORFEITURES
  • ONLY THE CASE FILE REVIEW LATER ON, TO EXAMINE IF THE AGENCIES WERE FOLLOWING, LIKE DUE PROCESS REQUIREMENTS, WAS BASED ON A SAMPLE OF A FEW CASES PER AGENCY
  • BUT THE REST OF THE ANALYSIS ARE BASED ON THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF FORFEITURES THEY HAD DURING THAT REVIEW PERIOD
  • SO, MY QUESTION, LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE, THE PERCENTAGE OF LOCAL POPULATION
  • LET'S LOOK AT THE ONE THAT'S MOST GLARING
  • 13% OF THE LOCAL POPULATION IS BLACK
  • HOWEVER, I IMAGINE ALMOST ALL OF OUR FORFEITURES ARE AMONG FOLKS TRAVELING THROUGH SEA, CORRECT? YEAH
  • SO FOR THE
  • I KNOW IT SAYS LOCAL POPULATION RIGHT THERE, BUT FOR THE PORT OF SEATTLE, WE DID ADJUSTED OUR METHODOLOGY TO CREATE A COMPARISON POPULATION THAT BETTER REFLECT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE PLACES WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT FACE FORFEITURES WITH THE PORT OF SEATTLE LEAVE
  • SO WE CREATED A WEIGHTED AVERAGE OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE STATES WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT HAD FORFEITURES WITH THE PORT OF SEATTLE LEAVE TO COME UP WITH, LIKE, A COMPARISON POPULATION
  • AND ARE
  • MAYBE THIS IS A MISCONCEPTION ON MY PART, BUT I
  • I THOUGHT THAT MANY OF THESE ARE PROMPTED BY CBP FINDING CASH IN LUGGAGE, WHICH WOULD INDICATE THAT IT WOULD BE A LOT OF FOLKS TRAVELING INTERNATIONALLY
  • CORRECT
  • I THINK THE POOR IS BETTER
  • OFFICIALS ARE BETTER FITTED TO TALK ABOUT THEIR SPECIFIC METHODS
  • I'D LIKE TO WELCOME CHIEF VILLA TO THE STAND, ALSO TO BE ABLE TO TAKE QUESTIONS
  • AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE IF OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM PORT OF SEATTLE POLICE HAVE ANY RESPONSE THAT THEY'D LIKE TO PROVIDE
  • AND CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? YES
  • GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR
  • DO I HAVE TO TURN THIS ON? GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
  • I'M MIKE VILLA, PORT OF SEATTLE CHIEF OF POLICE
  • AND HERE WITH ME TODAY IS KYLE YOSHIMIRA, COMMANDER FOR OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION
  • I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS AND THEN ALSO TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS
  • AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE ILLEGAL DRUG TRADE IS HARMING OUR COMMUNITIES
  • AND EVEN IN 2023, OVER 1300 PEOPLE IN KING COUNTY ALONE DIED OF DRUG OVERDOSE DURING THAT TIME
  • AND ALL OF US HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THE DEVASTATING EFFECTS OF DRUGS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND MAYBE SOME OF US EVEN MORE CLOSER TO HOME, WITH FAMILY OR WITH FRIENDS
  • FIRST, JUST
  • I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION JUST REGARDING OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE DO, OR OUR TEAM, OUR INTERDICTION TEAM
  • IT WAS IN 2018 THAT THE PORT OF SEATTLE CREATED A DRUG INTERDICTION TEAM OVERSEEN BY OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, AND THAT CONSISTED OF TWO NARCOTIC DETECTIVES AND THEIR PARTNER, CANINES
  • THE TEAM HAS ACCOMPLISHED SIGNIFICANT RESULTS BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2019 AND 2022, LEADING TO 76 CRIMINAL ARREST FOR DRUG TRAFFICKING
  • THEY SEIZED OVER 2090 3 GRAMS OF COCAINE, 300 DOSAGE UNITS OF OXYCODONE, 795 GRAMS OF HEROIN, 2375 POUNDS OF MARIJUANA, 23 METHAMPHETAMINE, AND 253,868 FENTANYL PILLS DURING THAT PERIOD, AND THE STREET VALUE OF THESE ILLICIT SUBSTANCES IS MORE THAN $9 MILLION DOLLARS
  • REMOVING THESE ILLICIT NARCOTICS STOP THEM FROM ENTERING INTO THE PUBLIC AND FURTHER HARMING OUR COMMUNITIES
  • OUR INTERDICTION UNIT, ALSO BETWEEN THOSE YEARS OF 2019 AND 2022, THEY SEIZED OVER $7.42 MILLION OF CASH THAT WAS FUELING THE ILLICIT DRUG TRADE
  • SECOND, MOVING FROM THAT, I'D LIKE TO JUST TALK ABOUT, ABOUT THE UNIQUE OPERATING ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH THE PORT OF SEATTLE AND OUR DETECTIVES WORK
  • OUR DEPARTMENT REALLY IS UNLIKE ANY OTHER JURISDICTION THAT WAS AUDITED OR THAT IS IN OR CITY OR COUNTY IN WASHINGTON STATE
  • YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES TO ONE OF THE BUSIEST AIRPORTS IN NORTH AMERICA AND A MAJOR GATEWAY FOR DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL
  • THERE WERE OVER 50 MILLION PASSENGERS THAT TRAVELED THROUGH SEA IN 2023
  • SIMILARLY, OUR ASSET FORFEITURES ARE UNIQUE COMPARED TO OTHER POLICING AGENCIES IN THE STATE, AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE INCORRECT TO COMPARE OUR DEPARTMENT WITH OTHER POLICING AGENCIES
  • WE PREVIOUSLY ADDRESSED THIS UNIQUENESS IN OUR RESPONSE TO THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE OR RESPONSES, AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT MORE WITH THE PORT OF SEATTLE AUDIT COMMITTEE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DO SO
  • THIRD, AND FINALLY, PER THE AUDITOR'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY SHOW IT, I THINK IT WAS IN OUR LAST SLIDE OR CLOSER LAST SLIDE, THE PORT OF SEATTLE
  • WE ARE READY AND WILLING TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN ANY WORK GROUP THAT THE LEGISLATURE WOULD CONVENE TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE PROCESS IN THE STATE
  • AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK, WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION THAT YOU HAD, COMMISSIONER CALKINS, BUT THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE
  • AND SO
  • AND I'M GOING TO TURN SOME OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OVER TO COMMANDER YOSHIMIRA
  • I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION YOU HAD ABOUT CBP IN THAT MOST OF OUR DRUG INTERDICTION, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CBP COMING FROM INTERNATIONAL TRAVELERS, BUT IT'S REALLY THE WORK OF THE TWO
  • THE WORK OF THE TWO DETECTIVES AND THOSE TEAMS THAT ARE RECEIVING TIPS FROM VARIOUS PERSONS
  • SOME OF THOSE COULD BE FROM CBP, BUT I THINK A LARGE PORTION OF THOSE ARE DOMESTIC TRAVEL
  • IS THAT CORRECT IN SAYING THAT, COMMANDER? YES
  • GOOD MORNING, MADAM COMMISSIONER, MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
  • YES
  • SO, AGAIN, MY NAME IS COMMANDER KYLIE OSHIMURA
  • AS CHIEF EO WAS SAYING, MOST OF OUR CASES ARE GENERATED DOMESTICALLY, AND ALTHOUGH WE DO RECEIVE TIPS FROM CBP, WE RECEIVE VARIOUS TIPS FROM OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE
  • SO IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO CBP
  • SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR
  • THIS IS OUR GOAL TODAY IS NOT TO INHIBIT GOOD LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS THAT HELP TO SLOW OR STOP THE TRADE OF ILLICIT DRUGS
  • NOR DO I HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT FORFEITURES OF ILLICIT GAINS
  • WHAT I WANT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IS HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT CASTING TOO BROAD A NET IN THE WAY WE DO THAT, AND THAT WHEN WE DO RETAIN FUNDS FROM SOMEBODY WHO WAS NOT ENGAGED IN ANY SORT OF LEGAL ACTIVITY, THAT THERE IS A SIMPLE AND RELATIVELY PAINLESS WAY FOR THEM TO MAKE A CLAIM AND GET THAT BACK
  • AND I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE EXCELLENT ON THAT
  • PART OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THE DISPROPORTIONALITY THAT WE SEE IN THAT FIGURE, AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF OUR UNIQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR POLICE JURISDICTION
  • OR IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE WORSE, EVEN MORE SKEWED, THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR TRAVELING PUBLIC MIGHT THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE USING THERE BASED ON LOCAL POPULATION
  • AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID WAIT THAT
  • AND SO I APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT
  • BUT SO IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS, I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE IS SOME EFFORT, WHETHER IT'S BY US AS A PORT OR IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COMMERCIAL AVIATION INDUSTRY, TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT MOVING THESE QUANTITIES OF MONEY, PARTICULARLY INTERNATIONALLY, IS PROHIBITED AND SO THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T INADVERTENTLY
  • IS THAT NOT TRUE? I SEE SOMEBODY SHAKING THEIR HEAD
  • I MEAN, INTERNATIONALLY, IT SAYS, YOU HAVE TO DECLARE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THAT MONEY
  • AND SO NOW, THANKFULLY, ENGLISH IS THE LINGUA FRANCA
  • SO I CAN READ ALL THE SIGNS THAT, WHETHER IT'S HERE OR IN OTHER COUNTRIES
  • BUT I WONDER ABOUT SOMEONE WHO IS MIGRATING TO THE UNITED STATES
  • HAS THEIR LIFE SAVINGS GRABBED AT THE AIRPORT BECAUSE THEY TRIPPED A THRESHOLD THAT THEY WERE UNAWARE OF? AND THOSE TYPES OF
  • THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN IS TODAY, IS US PUTTING SOMEBODY INTO INDIGENCY BECAUSE WE SEIZED FUNDING AND THEY HAD NOT DONE ANYTHING WRONG OTHER THAN TO TRANSPORT THAT
  • CHIEF VIA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? YEAH, I THINK WE CAN RESPOND A LITTLE BIT OR TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR, WHEN WE DO THESE SEIZURES, KIND OF HOW WE, NOT TO GET INTO TOO MANY DETAILS, BUT ESSENTIALLY HOW DO WE RECEIVE THE TIP? WHEN DO OUR OFFICERS RESPOND OR DETECTIVES RESPOND AND INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION? IT MIGHT ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE
  • AND THEN YOU ALSO DID TOUCH ON NOTICES AND APPEAL PROCESS
  • SO IF WE HAVE TIME, I'D LIKE COMMANDER YOSHIMIRA TO KIND OF TOUCH ON THAT, TOO
  • AND I COULD SPEAK TO COMMANDER YOSHIMIRA, BUT YOU'RE MUCH MORE DIALED INTO THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC
  • SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, COMMANDER, PLEASE
  • SURE
  • SO IF WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THE FIRST CONCERN ABOUT HOW DO WE RECEIVE THESE TIPS? SO OUR DETECTIVES OPERATE OFF OF PROBABLE CAUSE STANDARD, AND SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR MORE THAN JUST THE FAMILY THAT IS COMING IN WITH THEIR LIFE SAVINGS
  • THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT TO DETERMINE WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM
  • YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITHOUT GOING INTO ALL OF THE DETAILS, THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED, THERE ARE CERTAIN FACTORS, SUCH AS PURCHASING TICKET AT THE LAST MINUTE, DOING IT AS A CASH TRANSACTION, A LAST MINUTE PURCHASE
  • THAT'S ONLY ONE WAY
  • SO THESE FACTORS ARE KEY FACTORS THAT PLAY INTO THE MONEY
  • AND WE, AGAIN, SOME OF THE TIPS THAT WE RECEIVE, THEY'RE NOT JUST, HEY, THIS PERSON COULD BE CARRYING MONEY OR THEY ARE CARRYING MONEY
  • IT'S JUST TIPS THAT THIS PERSON COULD BE COMING WITH DRUGS OR MONEY
  • SO WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING FOR THE MONEY
  • AND HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION
  • PARTLY THAT, YEAH, IT DOES
  • AND AGAIN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE ARE UNCONTROVERSIAL SEIZURE OF FUNDS THAT WERE SOMEHOW INVOLVED IN ILLICIT ACTIVITIES
  • NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE
  • AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO DIVULGE WHAT METHODS YOU'RE USING TO DISCOVER THE ILLICIT TRANSFER OF MONEY THROUGH THE AIRPORT
  • I THINK THAT'S GREAT
  • AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO DRILL DOWN INTO WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENSURE THOSE WHO ARE IN GOOD FAITH SIMPLY TRYING TO, AND MAYBE THEY'RE UNBANKED FROM WHERE THEY'RE TRAVELING FROM OR JUST SIMPLY UNAWARE OF THAT KIND OF REGULATION THAT EITHER REQUIRES YOU REPORT IT OR FIND A DIFFERENT WAY TO MOVE IT OTHER THAN IN YOUR LUGGAGE
  • SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF THE TOTAL POTENTIAL CASES, BUT WE WANT TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING WHEN POSSIBLE AND HAVE AN OUTLET FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO SHOULD BE ABLE TO LAWFULLY CLAIM THEIR MONEY
  • THAT'S AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE
  • AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE AMONG THE BETTER INSTANCES OF POLICE AGENCIES
  • AND SO MOVING FORWARD, WHAT I WANT TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT CAN WE DO TO GO FROM BETTER TO BEST, AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO ADVOCATE AT THIS STATE LEVEL FOR THESE LEGISLATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS? AND MAYBE THAT'S JUST ADDING IT TO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA
  • COMMISSIONER HASEGAWA
  • THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CALKINS, MISS HOLMSTROM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOW? THAT'S JUST FINE
  • I HAVE A FEW OF MY OWN THEN
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION
  • AN INTERESTING THING ABOUT A STATEWIDE AUDIT IS IT WILL COME WITH SOME HIGH LEVEL, I THINK, OVERARCHING THEMES AND RECOMMENDATIONS
  • AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION
  • FOR ME, AS AN AUDIT COMMITTEE MEMBER WITH THE PORT OF SEATTLE, I'M INTERESTED AT SOME OF THOSE SUBGROUPS THAT WERE PARTICIPATING IN THE AUDIT
  • AND SO, CHIEF VILLA, COMMANDER YOSHIMIRA, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW WE'RE SORT OF AN OUTLIER, I THINK, IN TERMS OF VOLUME, IN TERMS OF PRACTICES, IN TERMS OF JURISDICTION
  • SO IF WE COULD TURN TO SLIDE SIX, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DATA, IF WE COULD
  • WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, THEY DON'T COLLECT KEY DATA
  • I HEARD YOU PULL OUT RACE AND ETHNICITY
  • ARE THERE ANY OTHER CATEGORIES THAT YOU WERE RECOMMENDING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DO COLLECT? SURE
  • SOME OF THE LEADING PRACTICES, IN ADDITION TO RACE AND ETHNICITY, SUGGEST THAT AGENCIES SHOULD COLLECT CRIMINAL CONVICTION INFORMATION, WHETHER OR NOT A PERSON WAS CONVICTED OF A CRIME AND AT WHAT STAGE THEY, I GUESS, WENT UP TO ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPECIFIC INCIDENT
  • CORRECT
  • AM I MISSING ANY? SAHARA? YEAH, THERE'S A HOST OF DATA THAT LEADING PRACTICES RECOMMEND
  • LIKE, WHAT WAS THE CIVIL OUTCOME OF THE CASE? WAS THE PROPERTY FORFEITED BY DEFAULT OR AFTER A HEARING? THEY ALSO RECOMMEND TO COLLECT DATA ON WHO MADE THE DECISION
  • WAS THAT MADE ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OR WAS IT MADE BY THE COURT IN A JUDICIAL WAY? SO, AND I THINK THE REPORT PAGE, WHERE WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, KIND OF LISTS SOME OF THOSE KEY DATA POINTS THAT LEADING PRACTICES RECOMMEND AGENCIES COLLECT TO STRENGTHEN TRANSPARENCY ABOUT CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE
  • AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE PARTICIPATING POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE AUDITED, WAS IT A RANDOM SELECTION? I MEAN, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON
  • WE SELECTED AGENCIES BASED ON A VARIETY OF FACTORS, SUCH AS THEIR LEVEL OF CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE ACTIVITY DURING THAT THREE YEAR PERIOD, THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THEY WERE RECEIVING FROM CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE
  • AND WE ALSO WANTED VARIOUS TYPES OF AGENCIES
  • WE WANTED, LIKE POLICE
  • DON'T MIND THE TRAIN
  • OKAY
  • SORRY
  • WE WANTED TO
  • IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH, LIKE, OVERALL RECOMMENDATIONS, WE WANTED, LIKE, TO INCLUDE A MIX DEPARTMENTS, SHERIFF'S OFFICES, STATE AGENCY, LIKE THE STATE PATROL, AND LIKE, A DRUG TASK FORCE
  • BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL DRUG TASK FORCES THAT CONDUCT CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE IN THE STATE
  • SO THOSE THREE FACTORS WERE PRIMARILY DRIVING OUR SELECTION
  • AND THEN I KNOW MULTIPLE OF THESE POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THEIR JURISDICTION ALSO HAVE AN OPERATING PORT IN SOME CAPACITY
  • SO DO YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SPOKANE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ALSO RESPONDS TO THE AIRPORT THERE OF YAKIMA PD? I'M SORRY, NOT YAKIMA
  • SPOKANE THAT HAS AN AIRPORT DOES
  • SO DOES SPOKANE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RESPOND TO THE AIRPORT THERE? I'M NOT SURE
  • WHAT I KNOW FROM THE DATA IS THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR IF
  • IF THE AGENCY WAS JUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR A TASK FORCE MADE OF THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OTHER AGENCIES, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE CENTRALIA POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU GOT THE CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURES CONDUCTED BY THE CENTRALIA POLICE DEPARTMENT
  • BUT THERE IS ALSO A TASK FORCE IN THAT AREA THAT THOSE FORFEITURES THAT INCLUDE THE CENTRALIA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER AGENCIES
  • I DON'T RECALL FROM THE DATA SEEING, LIKE, OTHER PORTS
  • OKAY
  • YEAH, BUT I CAN'T ANSWER WITH 100% CERTAINTY ON THAT
  • COMMANDER, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? YES, MADAM CHAIR
  • SO JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SPOKANE AIRPORT DOES HAVE THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEN THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT
  • THANK YOU
  • AND THEN IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE TWELVE, PLEASE
  • I'M LOOKING AT RACE AND ETHNIC DATA
  • SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU'VE CAPTURED INFORMATION FOR WESTERN, ASIAN OR ARAB POPULATIONS
  • AND IF SO, HOW THEY'RE GROUPED
  • I KNOW HISTORICALLY, PERHAPS ERRONEOUSLY, THEY'VE BEEN CATEGORIZED ON A RACIAL BASIS BY THE CENSUS AS CAUCASIAN
  • PROPERLY
  • THEY'RE FROM THE ASIAN CONTINENT
  • AND I ASK BECAUSE IF WE'RE RAISING POTENTIAL ISSUES OF DISPARATE PRACTICES, PARTICULARLY ON A RACE OR ETHNIC BASIS, THERE ARE ONGOING REPERCUSSIONS FROM 911 AND, AND DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES AGAINST ARAB AND MUSLIM PEOPLE WITH RELIGIOUS, WHO BEAR RELIGIOUS INDICATORS
  • AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT THEIR DATA IS CAPTURED HERE
  • IT COULD BE, BUT IT'S HARD TO TELL
  • IT LENDS ITSELF TOWARDS THE QUESTION OF IMPORTANCE OF GOOD DATA
  • RIGHT? IT COULD BE, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO USE THESE, THIS MORE LIKE CLEARLY DEFINED RACE AND ETHNIC GROUPS BY THE US CENSUS
  • AND ALSO LIKE THE METHODOLOGY THAT WE USED TO, LIKE, ESTIMATE PEOPLE'S PROBABLE RACE AND ETHNICITY ALSO USES THESE SAME KIND OF, LIKE, CATEGORIES
  • SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT INCLUDES PEOPLE OF THOSE RACES AND ETHNICITIES, BUT HARD TO TELL
  • MADAM CHAIR, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT JUST ON
  • NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO THAT, BUT TWO COMMENTS
  • ONE IS, IN GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER CALKINS COMMENT PREVIOUSLY, IS THAT OUR INVESTIGATIONS DON'T START WITH SOMEBODY DECLARING FUNDS
  • SO WE DO HAVE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE AIRPORT OR INTO THE AIRPORT, AND THEY DECLARE THAT THEY HAVE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND THEY'RE COMING IN
  • OUR INVESTIGATIONS REALLY START FROM TIPS THAT WE RECEIVE, AND WE INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION BASED ON TRAVELER CHARACTERISTICS AND ABOUT, I THINK I CAN SAFELY SAY 100% OF THE TIME, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ETHNICITY OR NATIONALITY OR RACE SOMEBODY IS
  • WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS COMMITTED COMMANDER YOSHIMIRA MENTIONED, SOME OF THOSE CHARACTERISTICS
  • WE'RE LOOKING AT DRUG TRADE ROUTES AND THINGS OF THOSE NATURES AS WELL
  • AND THEN WE INITIATE, MAKE A DETERMINATION IF WE'RE GOING TO INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PERSON TRAVELING THROUGH AND CONTINUE THAT INVESTIGATION THROUGH INTERVIEW, AND POTENTIALLY BRING IN ONE OF OUR CANINE DOGS, DRUG DOGS AND AYE
  • GETTING ON THE MONEY OR A SUITCASE THAT MIGHT HAVE DRUGS IN IT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE
  • AND SO WHILE CERTAINLY WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN NOT TO DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT ANY GROUP, REALLY, OUR INVESTIGATIONS ARE A LOT DIFFERENT FROM, AND VERY UNIQUE FROM WHAT YOU MIGHT FIND IN A CITY OR A COUNTY WHERE THEY'RE STOPPING PEOPLE FINDING DRUGS ON THEM, OR THEY'RE TARGETING A PARTICULAR LOCATION WHERE DRUGS MIGHT, THEY SUSPECT DRUGS MAY BE KILLED COMING OUT OF OR PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT
  • SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THOSE OTHER AGENCIES, BUT JUST MAKE, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR THAT IT IS REALLY UNIQUE HOW WE CONDUCT THESE INVESTIGATIONS
  • THAT'S HELPFUL
  • THANK YOU
  • CHIEF DIAS
  • SLIDE SEVEN, IS THERE A REASON WHY DRUGS WERE NOT ONE OF THE CATEGORIES THAT YOU SCREENED FOR? WERE AUDITING SOUGHT TO IDENTIFY, LIKE THE TYPE OF PROPERTY THAT IS BEING SEIZED? BECAUSE THIS IS THE KIND OF PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE CAN, LIKE, RECLAIM BACK
  • IF THE PROPERTY WAS NOT INVOLVED OR ASSOCIATED WITH CRIME WHEN IT COMES TO DRUGS, I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE DISPOSED, BUT I'LL LET THE OFFICER SPEAK BETTER ABOUT THAT
  • SO DRUGS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN RECLAIM BACK, AM I? THAT'S CORRECT
  • YOU CAN'T CLAIM BACK YOUR DRUGS? YEAH
  • JUST WONDERING IF WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THE FULL PICTURE OF THE OPERATION OF STOPPING SEIZING AND THEN HOW THAT'S HANDLED ALSO, I THINK, BECOMES A LEGAL QUESTION, INCLUDING THE WAY IT'S DICTATED THROUGH RCW
  • AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT AND HAD SOME PRETTY THOROUGH CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HERE AT THE PORT OF SEATTLE IS WHAT HAPPENS ONCE, INCLUDING WITH GUNS AS WELL
  • I MEAN, YOU HAVE WEAPONS LISTED HERE
  • SO THAT'S HELPFUL FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE AND THE PURPOSE
  • AND, MADAM CHAIR, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE PERSON DOESN'T GET THEIR DRUGS BACK, BUT WE DON'T JUST DISPOSE OF THEM
  • THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS OF GOING THROUGH COURT AND HAVING THE CASE ADJUDICATED AND FINALIZED
  • AND THEN ONCE THAT'S CLEAR, I SIGN OFF ON THE DESTRUCTION METHOD
  • BUT, YES, WE HOLD ON TO IT UNTIL IT'S SEATED
  • THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEBODY DECLARING A WEAPON, HAVING IT SEIZED, AND THEN SEEKING TO BE ABLE TO RECUPERATE THAT VERSUS GETTING A TIP FROM SOMEBODY SAYING THAT SOMEBODY'S PROBABLY CARRYING WEAPONS AND THEN INTERCEPTING THAT AND THEN SEIZING THEM
  • AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED SUBSEQUENTLY TO THOSE, TO THE ARMS THAT WERE SEIZED THAT WERE PLAUSIBLY BEING PROLIFERATED INTO OUR SOCIETY FOR NEFARIOUS OR UNDERGROUND PURPOSES
  • SO I JUST ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS ABOUT DRUGS, NARCOTICS, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE PROBLEM IS THROUGH LEGALLY PRESCRIPTIONS AS WELL
  • MOVING FORWARD
  • SLIDE 22, SCREENING FOR PLAIN TALK AND TRANSLATION
  • WHO ARE, HOW DOES THE PORT OF SEATTLE DO, CHIEF? DO WE USE PLAIN TALK? AND DO WE HAVE TRANSLATED MATERIALS THAT CAN POINT PEOPLE TOWARDS RECOVERING THEIR PROPERTY? YEAH, AND YOU CAN EXPAND ON THIS, COMMANDER, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING CONTACT WITH THE PERSON WHO HAS THE CASH AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE SEIZING, WE, ALMOST ALL OF OURS ARE IN PERSON NOTICES
  • AND IF THERE IS A LANGUAGE BARRIER, THEN WE HAVE HAD SOME OF THOSE, BUT WE'VE HAD STAFF THAT CAN SPEAK THOSE PARTICULAR LANGUAGES
  • AND SO WE'VE UTILIZED STAFF OR OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH
  • IF WE NEEDED TO
  • WE COULD CALL THE LANGUAGE LINE AND WORK THROUGH THEM TO DO THAT
  • AS FAR AS OUR NOTICES GO, THAT IS AN AREA THAT WE CERTAINLY COULD IMPROVE IN, IS THAT
  • I WOULD SAY IT IS PLAIN TALK LOOKING THROUGH THAT NOTICE FORM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT IN ADDITIONAL LANGUAGES AT THIS TIME
  • AND THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR FINDINGS ON THE REVIEW OF THE PORT OF SEATTLE NOTICES
  • THEY ARE ONLY IN ENGLISH AND THEY ARE NOT WRITTEN IN PLAIN TALK
  • BASED ON THE TEST THAT WE DID, THERE WAS ONLY ONE AGENCY THAT HAD A LETTER THAT GOT CLOSER TO THAT PLAIN TALK STANDARD OF WRITING LETTERS TO AN 8TH GRADE READING LEVEL
  • SO WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE? YOU GO, YOU PUBLISH YOUR REPORT, YOU MAKE SURE THE STAKEHOLDERS HAD A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT AS WELL
  • IS THIS THE FINAL REPORT? IS THIS A DRAFT REPORT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING INPUT ON? THE REPORT IS ALREADY FINAL, HAS ALREADY BEEN PUBLISHED, AND WE ALREADY ALSO PRESENTED IT TO A LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE AUDIT AND REVIEW COMMITTEE
  • SO AS FAR AS THE WORK OF THE STATE AUDITOR WITH THIS AUDIT, WE'RE DONE
  • BUT ARE YOU MAKING LEGISLATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL? WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO CONVENE A WORKGROUP TO DELIBERATE ON WHETHER THE SYSTEM IS WORKING AS INTENDED AND TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE REPORT TO ADDRESS ISSUES WITH THE CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE ISSUES OF CONCERNS WITH THE CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE SYSTEM
  • SO THERE IS VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS, POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT REPORT FOR THE LEGISLATIVE WORKGROUP TO CONSIDER AS THEY DELIBERATE ANY CHANGES TO THE SYSTEM
  • OKAY, SO WE MAY
  • YOU MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND THEN HOW'S THAT? HOW IS THAT MOVING THROUGH THE LEGISLATION? HAS IT BEEN INTRODUCED IN THE LAST SESSION OR IS THAT COMING UP? WE PRESENTED THIS REPORT AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WAS COMPLETED
  • SO IF THERE IS ANY
  • DOES IT NAME MEMBERSHIP? ARE YOU RECOMMENDING MEMBERSHIP? PERHAPS THE PARTICIPATING POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE SUBJECT TO THIS AUDIT? WE DIDN'T SPECIFY WHO SHOULD BE PART OF THE WORKGROUP, BUT WE DID MENTION DURING OUR LEGISLATIVE HEARING THAT WE WOULD EXPECT THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WOULD BE A KEY MEMBER ON THAT WORK GROUP
  • BUT IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE LEGISLATURE WHO THEY INVOLVE IN THE WORK GROUP
  • OKAY, WELL, THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS
  • DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? GIVES US A LOT TO THINK ABOUT
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH
  • APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION
  • THANK YOU
  • THANK YOU
  • ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD
  • OUR NEXT EXTERNAL AUDIT IS FROM MOSS ADAMS REGARDING THE RESULTS OF THE 2023 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AUDIT
  • MR FERNANDEZ, PLEASE INTRODUCE OUR SPEAKERS
  • THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS
  • TODAY WE HAVE OLGA DARLINGTON AND ANNA WALDRON FROM MOSS ADAMS, AND THEY'LL BE TALKING NOT ONLY ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT, BUT WHAT THEY DID, THE WORK THAT THEY DID, AND WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE
  • SO WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT ON TO OLGA AND ANNA TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND MOVE FORWARD
  • THANK YOU, GLENN
  • GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE
  • IT IS GREAT TO BE WITH YOU HERE TODAY
  • WE COMPLETED THE 2023 AUDIT IN APRIL AND ISSUED OUR REPORT
  • SO TODAY IS JUST OUR BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE AUDIT RESULTS FOR YOU
  • IF WE JUMP TO THE SLIDE THAT'S TITLED AUDITOR REPORTS ISSUED
  • THIS IS A HIGHLIGHT OF OUR PRESENTATION, ALL THE REPORTS THAT WE HAVE ISSUED AS A RESULT OF OUR WORK SUMMARIZED HERE
  • FIRST IS THE AUDITOR REPORT ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS PROVIDING AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, WHICH MEANS IT'S A CLEAN OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
  • THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE MATERIALLY ACCURATE AND THE FOOTNOTE DISCLOSURES ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES
  • THE SECOND REPORT WAS ISSUED AS A REQUIREMENT OF THE GOVERNMENTAL AUDITING STANDARDS UNDER WHICH WE PERFORM THE AUDIT
  • THAT IS A REPORT ON INTERNAL CONTROLS AND COMPLIANCE AND OTHER MATTERS
  • WE DID NOT IDENTIFY ANY MATERIAL WEAKNESSES OR ANY FINDINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT REPORT
  • SO ALL IN ALL, ONCE AGAIN, CLEAN REPORT THERE
  • THE THIRD REPORT IS REPORT ON COMPLIANCE OVER MAJOR FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND INTERNAL CONTROLS AND COMPLIANCE, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS A REPORT ON FEDERAL GRANTS THAT WERE EXPANDED DURING 2023 BY THE PORT
  • THERE WERE SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT GRANTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT REPORT
  • WE DID NOT IDENTIFY ANY ISSUES, ANY COMPLIANCE FINDINGS OR INTERNAL CONTROL FINDINGS IN THAT REPORT AS WELL
  • SO ONCE AGAIN, CLEAN REPORT THERE
  • COUPLE OF MORE REPORTS ON THE NEXT SLIDE
  • WE ALSO AUDITED THE PFC PROGRAM, WHICH IS A PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE THAT'S COLLECTED THROUGH TICKET PURCHASES BY THE TRAVELING PUBLIC
  • THAT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM
  • THERE'S A SPECIAL FEDERAL AUDIT GUIDE THAT WE FOLLOW IN PERFORMING THAT AUDIT
  • ONCE AGAIN, NO FINDINGS UNDER THAT PROGRAM EITHER
  • THAT REPORT DOES GO TO THE FEDERAL AGENCIES AND THE FAA
  • SO NO FINDINGS THERE
  • CLEAN REPORT THE FINAL REPORT ON THAT SLIDE IS A REPORT ON SCHEDULE OF NET REVENUES AVAILABLE FOR BOND DEBT SERVICE
  • SO AS PART OF OUR AUDIT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL LOOK AT IS MAKING SURE THAT DEBT COVENANTS ARE MET BY THE PORT FOR ALL OF ITS OUTSTANDING DEBT BONDS AND SO FORTH
  • THIS PARTICULAR REPORT GOES INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL OVER THE SCHEDULE THAT CALCULATES THAT COMPLIANCE FOR BOND AND AVAILABLE FUNDING
  • SO CLEAN REPORT THERE AS WELL
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • COUPLE MORE REPORTS ON AGREED UPON PROCEDURES
  • THESE ARE TWO VERY SPECIFIC REPORTS THAT GO TO THE AGENCIES, THE DEPARTMENT OF ECOLOGY WITH WASHINGTON STATE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, SPECIFIC MORE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL OBLIGATIONS THAT THE PORT HAS AND SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED ON TO THOSE AGENCIES
  • ONCE AGAIN, NO ISSUES IN THOSE REPORTS
  • SO ALL IN ALL, IN ALL OF THE REPORTS THAT I ISSUED OR THAT WE ISSUED AND I SUMMARIZED, ALL CLEAN REPORTS, NO SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS, NO MATERIAL WEAKNESSES AND INTERNAL CONTROL
  • SO ONCE AGAIN, A CLEAN REPORT CARD FOR THE PORT ON 2023 FINANCIAL RESULTS
  • AND THEN ANNA WILL HELP ME SUMMARIZE THE OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF FOCUS THAT WE COVERED DURING OUR AUDIT
  • GREAT, WE CAN
  • YEAH, MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE
  • SO, JUST TO KIND OF FURTHER ELABORATE ON WHAT THE SCOPE OF OUR AUDIT ENTAILS, WE DO OUTLINE JUST WHAT OF THE AREAS OF FOCUS ARE FOR YOUR BENEFIT
  • SO WE DO START OUR WORK IN THE FALL
  • WE CALL IT OUR INTERIM FIELD WORK
  • DURING THAT TIME, WE'RE FOCUSED ON TESTING THE PORT'S INTERNAL CONTROL ENVIRONMENT
  • THIS IS THE BASIS FOR THEN US DESIGNING OUR TESTING PROCEDURES FOR FINAL FIELD WORK
  • WE SPEND TIME LOOKING AT THE PORT'S IT COMPUTER, GENERAL CONTROLS FOR ANY IT SYSTEMS THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE FINANCIAL REPORTING PROCESS, LOOKING AT CONTROLS AROUND CAPITAL ASSETS AS WELL AS PROJECT MANAGEMENT CONTROLS OVER BOTH CASH RECEIPTS AND CASH DISBURSEMENTS, PAYROLL, AND THEN ALSO SOME EXTRA TIME SPENT ON THE CONTROLS AROUND THE ADMINISTRATION OF FEDERAL AWARDS AS PART OF THAT SINGLE AUDIT THAT WE ALSO PERFORM
  • ANOTHER AREA OF EMPHASIS FOR US IS AREAS WHERE THERE IS MANAGEMENT ESTIMATED, AS THIS CAN HAVE SOME INHERENT RISKS FOR MANAGEMENT BIAS FOR THE PORT OF SEATTLE, SOME OF THE LARGER AREAS OF ESTIMATION WOULD BE AROUND THE ALLOWANCE FOR DOUBTFUL ACCOUNTS FOR RECEIVABLES, THE PORT'S ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION LIABILITIES, LEGAL CONTINGENCIES, AND THEN INPUTS FOR THE PENSION AND POST EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS
  • NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE
  • PLEASE
  • WE DO ALSO SPEND SOME TIME EACH YEAR JUST AUDITING THE BALANCE THAT'S REPORTED AS THE JOINT VENTURE WITH THE NORTHWEST SEAPORT ALLIANCE
  • THE NWSA DOES HAVE A SEPARATE AUDIT, SO WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND ENSURE THAT THE PORT OF SEATTLE IS PROPERLY CLAIMED, THEIR PORTION UNDER THE JOINT VENTURE
  • AND THEN CAPITAL ASSETS IS GENERALLY ONE OF THE LARGEST AREAS OF FOCUS FOR US
  • EVERY YEAR, JUST GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF ONGOING PROJECTS THAT THE AIRPORT HAS, WE DO LOOK AT THE CAPITALIZATION POLICIES, ENSURING THAT THOSE ARE BEING CONSISTENT YEAR OVER YEAR AND ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH AUDITING STANDARD ACCOUNTING STANDARDS, AND THEN DO LOOK AT ADDITIONS TO CAPITAL ASSETS FOR THE YEAR, ANY SIGNIFICANT RETIREMENTS, ENSURING THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS PROCESS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ARE BEING CLOSED TIMELY INTO ACTUAL IN SERVICE ASSETS
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • BOND ACTIVITY CAN BE ANOTHER AREA OF EMPHASIS THIS YEAR, A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER
  • THERE WERE NO SIGNIFICANT NEW DEBT ISSUANCES SO OUR PROCEDURES MOSTLY FOCUS AROUND CONFIRMING DIRECTLY WITH THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THE AMOUNT OF LIABILITIES THAT ARE HELD ON BEHALF OF THE PORT OF SEATTLE AND THEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION LIABILITY
  • THIS IS AN AREA OF EMPHASIS, ESPECIALLY AS I MENTIONED, IT IS AN AREA OF MANAGEMENT ESTIMATION
  • SO WE SPEND TIME TALKING WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN ESTIMATING THE COST EXPECTED FOR SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS, LOOKING AT WHAT'S CHANGED YEAR OVER YEAR, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE REACHING OUT TO ATTORNEYS AND OTHER THIRD PARTIES THAT MAY BE AWARE OF ONGOING ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION LIABILITIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE NEXT SLIDE REVENUE RECOGNITION AGAIN, THIS IS AN AREA OF SOME INHERENT RISK FOR INFLATING REVENUES
  • WE DO A COMBINATION OF BOTH ANALYTICAL TREND ANALYSIS AS WELL AS DETAILED TESTING OF INVOICES AND CONFIRMATIONS FOR THE AIRLINE REVENUE
  • SPECIFICALLY, WE DO SEND CONFIRMATIONS DIRECTLY TO THE AIRLINES TO TO CONFIRM THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE REPORTED
  • WE GET SOMETHING LIKE 90% COVERAGE FROM THAT AND THEN DO SOME ANALYTICAL PROCEDURES AS WELL, JUST LOOKING AT THE RATES AND CHARGES AND HOW THOSE ARE DISTRIBUTED
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • GASB 87 WAS A BIG HOT TOPIC LAST YEAR
  • IF YOU RECALL, IT WAS ADOPTED IN THE PRIOR YEAR
  • SO THIS WAS THE SECOND YEAR
  • NOW THAT THE PORT OF SEATTLE HAS BEEN REPORTING ITS LEASES ON ITS FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
  • JUST CONTINUED LOOKING AT NEW LEASES THAT ARE COMING ON DURING 2023, ENSURING THAT MANAGEMENT IS PROPERLY APPLYING THE GASB 87 GUIDANCE AND IDENTIFYING THOSE NEW LEASES AND PROPERLY CALCULATING THE ASSETS TO BE PLACED ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
  • AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE DID HAVE ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT ADOPTION FOR FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, WHICH WAS GASB 96, WHICH IS REFERRED TO AS SPEEDA OR SOFTWARE BASED SUBSCRIPTION ASSETS
  • SO VERY SIMILAR TO GASB 87, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON IT ARRANGEMENTS AND SO AGAIN, LOOKING FOR IT CONTRACTS, IDENTIFYING IF THEY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR GASB 96, IN WHICH CASE THERE IS AN ASSET AND A LIABILITY RECORDED ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
  • MANAGEMENT, AS USUAL, WAS VERY MUCH THINKING ABOUT THIS IN ADVANCE
  • WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME TESTING DONE BEFORE OUR YEAR END FIELD WORK AND REALLY APPRECIATED THE HARD WORK THAT MANAGEMENT PUT INTO THAT ADOPTION
  • IT WENT VERY SMOOTHLY
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • LAST COUPLE OF THINGS
  • SO FIDUCIARY ACTIVITIES AS PART OF OUR AUDIT PROCEDURES, WE DO AUDIT THE WAREHOUSEMAN PENSION TRUST FUND
  • NOT A TON OF ACTIVITY GOING INTO THAT NOW, BUT WE DO CONFIRM INVESTMENT BALANCES THAT THE PLAN HOLDS, LOOK AT CONTRIBUTIONS AND DISTRIBUTIONS FOR THE YEAR
  • AND THEN ON THE SINGLE AUDIT SIDE, AS OLGA MENTIONED, WE DO ISSUE SOME REPORTS RELATED TO THE PORT'S EXPENDITURE OF FEDERAL AWARDS
  • THE PRIMARY FEDERAL AWARD THAT THE PORT GETS IS THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH COMES FROM THE FAA
  • THAT DOES MAKE UP ABOUT ALMOST 100% OF THEIR FEDERAL AWARDS
  • SO THAT WAS THE MAJOR PROGRAM WE SELECTED FOR TESTING AND HAVE TESTED THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW AND DID NOT BECOME AWARE OF ANY FINDINGS OR REPORTABLE INSTANCES
  • ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, ANNA
  • OKAY, ON THE NEXT SLIDE OR NEXT SECTION, I SHOULD SAY WE HAVE SOME REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS
  • AND WHEN I SAY REQUIRED, THESE ARE REQUIRED OF US TO BE COMMUNICATED TO YOU AS THOSE CHARGED WITH GOVERNANCE, BECAUSE WE CONSIDER THESE TO BE IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO BE CARRYING OUT YOUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES
  • OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS AN AUDITOR TO AUDIT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
  • MANAGEMENT ACTUALLY TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND FOR ESTABLISHING A SYSTEM OF INTERNAL CONTROLS TO ENSURE THAT THE NUMBERS IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE ACCURATE
  • AND I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT MANAGEMENT TAKES THAT RESPONSIBILITY VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY
  • WE, AS A RESULT OF OUR AUDIT, ACTUALLY, I'M JUMPING AHEAD A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS OR PROPOSED AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS, WHICH MEANS THE INFORMATION WE WERE PRESENTED FOR THE AUDIT WAS ACCURATE, CLEAR AND CONCISE AND SUPPORTABLE
  • SO IT SOUNDS UNEVENTFUL, BUT IT IS REALLY BIG UNDERTAKING FOR AN ORGANIZATION OF THE PORT SIZE AND THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS THAT IT PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE ACCURATELY REPORTED
  • SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, A COUPLE OF MORE THINGS
  • WE PERFORMED OUR AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH PLAN, SCOPE AND TIMING AS WE PLANNED
  • AS ANNA MENTIONED, WE START OUR AUDIT PLANNING IN THE FALL, BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR
  • WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT NO SURPRISES CAME CAME UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AUDIT
  • SO THAT MEANS MANAGEMENT WAS VERY PROACTIVE IN SHARING INFORMATION WITH US
  • WE WERE ABLE TO ORGANIZE AND PLAN THE AUDIT AND DID NOT HAVE ANY OUT OF SCOPE ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR PLAN
  • THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT DISCLOSURES ARE CONSISTENT, CLEAR, UNDERSTANDABLE, NOT A LOT OF CHANGES FROM PRIOR YEARS OTHER THAN IMPLEMENTATION OF NEW STANDARD THAT ANNA MENTIONED EARLIER ON SUBSCRIPTION BASED INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY ARRANGEMENTS
  • WE'RE REQUIRED TO LET YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY DISAGREEMENTS WITH MANAGEMENT WITH RESPECT TO APPLICATION OF ACCOUNTING STANDARDS OR ANY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WITH RESPECT TO FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND FINANCIAL REPORTING
  • AND I'M PLEASED TO REPORT WE DID NOT HAVE ANY DISAGREEMENTS
  • AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE WORK THAT WE HAVE WITH THE PORT OF SEATTLE FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING TEAM IS VERY CLOSE AND VERY DOESN'T JUST COVER THE AUDIT PERIOD, BUT WE COMMUNICATE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, SO IT REALLY HELPS US FOR THE YEAR IN PLANNING NEXT SLIDE
  • AS FAR AS WE KNOW, MANAGEMENT DOES NOT CONSULT WITH ANY OTHER ACCOUNTANTS OR AUDITORS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR
  • THIS WOULD BE A CONCERN IF WE KNEW OF ANOTHER COMMUNICATION WAS AN AUDITOR WITH RESPECT TO APPLICATION OF ACCOUNTING STANDARDS, FOR EXAMPLE, SUCH AS OPINION SHOPPING
  • AND IF THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT
  • JUST WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES THAT PRESENTED TO ANOTHER ACCOUNTANT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH AS PART OF OUR AUDIT
  • BUT ONCE AGAIN, THAT WAS NOT AN ISSUE TO OUR KNOWLEDGE
  • ALSO, WE DID NOT DISCOVER IN THE COURSE OF OUR AUDIT ANY MATTERS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER ILLEGAL ACTS OR INSTANCES OF NONCOMPLIANCE WITH LAWS AND REGULATIONS THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO YOU TODAY
  • WE DON'T DESIGN OUR AUDIT TO FIND THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES, BUT WE DO DESIGN SOME PROCEDURES TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY INDICATION OF THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REPORT TO YOU
  • SO, NOTHING THERE TO REPORT
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY UNCORRECTED AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS
  • THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, AUDIT OR ANY ERRORS IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED OR THAT MANAGEMENT DID NOT WANT TO CORRECT
  • SO NOTHING IN THAT
  • THERE IS OTHER INFORMATION INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT
  • SO IT HAS MANY, SEVERAL PARTS
  • IT'S A QUITE LENGTHY REPORT
  • IT DOES INCLUDE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, MANAGEMENT, DISCUSSION, ANALYSIS
  • IT HAS OTHER REPORTS, REPORTS OR OTHER INFORMATION AS WELL, SUCH AS SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION, THE INTRODUCTORY SECTION, AS WELL AS SOME STATISTICAL SECTIONS THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY OUR AUDIT REPORT
  • BUT WE DO LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE DID COVER IN THE AUDIT
  • NEXT SLIDE, JUST A FEW MORE ACCOUNTING AUDITING THINGS
  • ON THIS SLIDE, WE HAVE A LIST OF ACCOUNTING PRONOUNCEMENTS THAT WERE APPLICABLE FOR IMPLEMENTATION IN 2023
  • OF THAT LIST, JUST REALLY, JUST THE SECOND ONE DOWN THERE IS THE ONE THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED AND HAD AN IMPACT ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
  • THE OTHERS WERE QUITE UNEVENTFUL, SO NOT A LOT OF CHANGES THERE
  • AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE A LIST OF A FEW UPCOMING ACCOUNTING STANDARDS IN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS
  • PLEASED TO REPORT THAT THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE AS SIGNIFICANT, AS BIG OF AN UNDERTAKING AS WE'VE HAD WITH LEASING STANDARD AND THE SPEEDA STANDARD
  • SO HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANCE FOR THE TEAM HERE TO CATCH THEIR BREATH AND IMPLEMENTING NEW ACCOUNTING STANDARDS AND JUST CONTINUE WITH THEIR REGULAR REPORTING
  • AND THAT COMPLETES OUR PRESENTATION
  • OH, JUST ONE LAST FINAL NOTE
  • A HUGE THANK YOU TO THE TEAM HERE
  • AS I SAID, JUST GREAT PLEASURE WORKING WITH THE ACCOUNTING AND FINANCIAL REPORTING TEAM
  • WE DO TALK WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATIONS, PARTICULARLY THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT MANAGERS, AND EVERYBODY HAS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE AND HELPFUL IN RESPONSES TO OUR QUESTIONS
  • WE DO HAVE TWO, TWO SUBCONTRACTOR FIRMS THAT WE EMPLOY AS PART OF OUR AUDIT TEAM
  • ONE OF THEM IS THE WOMAN OWNED ENTERPRISE, AND THAT'S RYLAND CONSULTING
  • THE OTHER ONE IS BRANCH RICHARDS IS A LONG TERM PARTNER WITH OUR FIRM
  • THEY USED TO BE A MINORITY OWNED AND A SMALL FIRM
  • THEY HAVE OUTGROWN THAT STATUS
  • HOWEVER, WE STILL CONTINUE OUR WORK WITH THEM JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SUCH A GREAT RELATIONSHIP
  • PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THAT TEAM CONTINUE WORKING ON THE PORT OF SEATTLE AUDIT JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND THEY HAVE GROWN INTO MANAGEMENT POSITIONS AND IN OUR AUDITS
  • SO ALL IN ALL, ABOUT 16% OF OUR TOTAL CONTRACT VALUE GOES TO THOSE TWO FIRMS GREAT
  • THANK YOU
  • I'LL TURN TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
  • BUT FIRST, JUST A MATTER OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE
  • I FIND PAGE NUMBERS TO BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL, BUT WHEN THEY'RE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM ON PRESENTATION MODE
  • SO CAN YOU PUT YOUR PAGE NUMBERS ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT MOVING FORWARD? STRANGELY NICHE AND OBNOXIOUS
  • REQUEST
  • I KNOW
  • WILL DO
  • THANK YOU
  • ALL RIGHT
  • TO MY COLLEAGUES
  • GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER, CAUCUS
  • TWO QUESTIONS, MOSTLY OUT OF CURIOSITY
  • ON SLIDE TEN, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION LIABILITY
  • THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST CLOAKED TOPICS
  • I WOULD SAY, THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED THE PORT OF SEATTLE BECAUSE OF HOW LITIGIOUS IT IS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THE PORT TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN PRIVACY AROUND CERTAIN INFORMATION
  • IN OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH OTHER PARTIES, DOES THAT LIMIT YOUR ABILITY TO REALLY DIG DEEP, OR ARE YOU ABLE TO GET INTO ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED EITHER WITH OUR ATTORNEYS, OUR PORT ATTORNEYS, OR WITHOUT SIDE COUNSEL? IS THERE
  • DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANY LACK OF INFORMATION BECAUSE OF HOW SECRET THAT AREA IS? I WOULD SAY NO
  • WE ARE ABLE TO ACCESS SENSITIVE INFORMATION AS PART OF THE KIND OF CLIENT PRIVILEGE THAT WE HAVE
  • AND SO WE DO TALK TO INTERNAL COUNSEL
  • WE DO GET INFORMATION FROM EXTERNAL COUNSEL
  • CERTAINLY THERE'S EXTRA CARE IN HAND HANDLING SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE'RE GIVEN THAT MAY BE IN PERSON CONVERSATIONS OR MAKING SURE STEPH'S GETTING ON THE SECURE PORTAL VERSUS EMAIL
  • BUT WE'VE NOT BEEN LIMITED IN ANY OF OUR REQUESTS, AND THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND WAYS TO GET US THE INFORMATION WE NEED, EVEN IF IT'S SENSITIVE
  • OKAY, THANKS
  • YEAH, THAT IS A
  • IT IS A BIG LINE ITEM, SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE GOOD, ACCURATE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT
  • THE SECOND ONE IS GASB 96
  • I GUESS I JUST
  • THIS IS MORE OUT OF CURIOSITY, BUT SO IS IT THAT WHEN WE SIGN UP, WHEN WE TAKE ON A LONG TERM LIABILITY, OR WE SUBSCRIBE TO AN ASSET OVER THE LONG TERM, THEY'RE NOW SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO TREAT THAT AS IF IT WERE A PHYSICAL ASSET RATHER THAN AN EXPENSE THAT COMES ALONG MONTHLY OR YEARLY
  • IS THAT THE IDEA? CORRECT
  • WHAT THE STANDARD DRIVES TO IS WHEN YOU SIGN AN AGREEMENT THAT COVERS SEVERAL YEARS, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THAT ASSET
  • AND NOT ONLY THE ASSET SIDE, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PAY FOR THAT
  • SO HISTORICALLY THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES WERE JUST ON PAY AS YOU GO BASIS
  • SO IT COUNTED AS A PERIOD EXPENSE
  • BUT IF YOU HAVE A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT THAT'S OFTEN NON CANCELABLE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY TREATED THE SAME AS LEASE IN TERMS OF ACCOUNTING
  • SO THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF THE LIABILITY GETS GROSSED UP, DISCOUNTED FOR THAT PERIOD AND RECORDED AS AN OBLIGATION
  • AND IS THERE AN OBVIOUS REASON WHY IT WOULD CHANGE THE NET POSITION ONCE THAT WHAT CAUSES THAT INCREASE IN THAT POSITION? WHEN YOU SHIFT IT FROM AN EXPENSE TO A LONG TERM LIABILITY, IT'S THE DISCOUNT APPLIED TO THE FUTURE PAYMENTS
  • THANKS MISS HOLMSTROM, AND NOTHING FROM ME
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY
  • THANK YOU
  • APPRECIATE IT
  • THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK
  • SO I GUESS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC
  • MR FERNANDEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE US THROUGH ITEMS FIVE THROUGH SEVEN? ABSOLUTELY, COMMISSIONER
  • SO ITEMS FIVE THROUGH SEVEN ESSENTIALLY FOR YOUR BENEFIT, TALK ABOUT WHO WE ARE, WHAT ARE WE SEEING OUT THERE AND WHAT ARE WE DOING
  • AND MICHELLE, IF YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ESSENTIALLY IS WHO WE ARE
  • COMMISSIONER FOR TRANSPARENCY FOR YOU AND FOR THE PUBLIC
  • WE LOOK INTERNAL AUDIT HERE
  • WE REPORT FUNCTIONALLY TO THE COMMITTEE HERE TO YOU AND ADMINISTRATIVELY TO STEVE METRUCK, WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PORT
  • WE HAVE PERFORMANCE AUDITS THAT ARE MANAGED BY DAN CHASE
  • WE HAVE CAPITAL AUDITS THAT ARE MANAGED BY SPENCER BRIGHT AND IT AUDITS THAT ARE MANAGED BY RIDICULE MARWAHA TECHNOLOGY AUDITS
  • NEXT SLIDE PLEASE
  • AND THERE'S THREE PACKETS
  • ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS NOT ONLY DO WE DO AUDITS, BUT THERE ARE MANAGEMENT COMMITMENTS IN THEIR ACTION PLANS FOR THE FINDINGS
  • WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO ADDRESS THE FINDINGS? AND HISTORICALLY WE'VE HAD QUITE A LARGE LIST
  • THEY TEND TO, THERE'S QUITE A FEW IN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, BUT THEY'RE SECURITY SENSITIVE
  • SO THOSE ARE ONLY DISCUSSED IN NON PUBLIC SESSION, WHICH THE NEXT NON PUBLIC SESSION IS GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT
  • THE PUBLIC SESSION ON PERFORMANCE AUDITS AND THE FINDINGS THAT ARE PUBLIC ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, THIS SLIDE ESSENTIALLY TELLS YOU THAT THEY ARE BEING ADDRESSED
  • AND OF ALL THE FINDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, WE HAD QUITE A BACKLOG AFTER COVID AND MANAGEMENT HAS ADDRESSED THEM OR MITIGATED THE RISK IN SOME MANNER
  • SO MUCH SO THAT WE'VE KIND OF REDUCED THE
  • BASICALLY THERE ARE NO OPEN FINDINGS ANYMORE
  • THEY'RE JUST NOT DUE BECAUSE THE COMMITMENT DATE IS IN THE FUTURE
  • SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS CHART
  • I WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END
  • SO, COMMISSIONER HASEGAWA, COMMISSIONER CALKINS, AND SARAH, IN DECEMBER, WE WILL PRESENT AN AUDIT PLAN TO YOU FOR YOU TO APPROVE
  • THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF 2023 AS OUR 2024 AUDIT PLAN
  • WE ALSO, ON THE FAR LEFT, WE'VE GOT LIMITED CONTRACT COMPLIANCE AUDITS, AND THOSE ARE ESSENTIALLY CONCESSIONAIRES AT THE AIRPORT THAT PAY US A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR RENT
  • AND IT'S FOR THE MOST PART, THROUGH AN HONOR SYSTEM
  • SO WHAT WE DO IS WE CYCLE THROUGH THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY TRULY ARE PAYING US WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING US PER THE CONTRACT
  • IN THE MIDDLE, YOU'VE GOT PERFORMANCE AUDITS, AND THERE'S TWO TYPES OF PERFORMANCE AUDITS, THE TRADITIONAL PERFORMANCE AUDITS
  • AND BECAUSE OF THE SCALE OF CAPITAL AT THE PORT, WE DO QUITE A FEW CAPITAL AUDITS
  • AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE THERE
  • AND THEN THERE'S MORE THAT WE OUTSOURCE AS WELL
  • SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT
  • AND THEN FINALLY, OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AUDITS
  • INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY IS HUGE JUST BECAUSE OF THE BACKBONE THAT RUNS THE AIRPORT AND RUNS EVERYTHING WE DO HERE, FROM THE BAGGAGE SYSTEMS TO THE RUNWAY LIGHTS, THOSE ARE ALL RUN AND THE TRAINS ARE ALL RUNNING IT SYSTEMS SO THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE ARE CRITICAL
  • WE ALSO AM HAPPY TO SAY WE'RE ON TRACK ON OUR PLAN AS OF THIS POINT IN THE YEAR
  • AND WE'LL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO, WE HAVE A FEW CONTINGENCY AUDITS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION
  • SO WE'LL ESPECIALLY ON THE LIMITED CONTRACT COMPLIANCE SIDE, WE'LL LIKELY MOVE A FEW OF THOSE UP AND GET A FEW MORE DONE THAN WE'VE ORIGINALLY PLANNED
  • NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE
  • MICHELLE
  • SO THIS SLIDE, COMMISSIONERS AND MISS HOLMSTROM ARE ESSENTIALLY THE GCCM AUDITS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW
  • WHEN WE DO HAVE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT'S MANAGED THROUGH THE GCCM OR GENERAL CONTRACTOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TYPE PROCESS, RCW 3910.385 REQUIRES AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT TO BE DONE ON THESE TYPES OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS
  • SO THE CHART OVER HERE THAT YOU SEE, WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW IN PROCESS AND WE'VE GOT OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS THAT WORK ON THESE
  • BUT WE SELECT THE CONTRACTOR AND WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM THROUGH THE COURSE WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE DETAILED INVOICES THAT SUBCONTRACTORS ARE SUBMITTING UP TO GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND THEREFORE TO THE PORT EVENTUALLY FOR PAYMENT
  • SO THE RCW JUST SAYS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACCURATE BEFORE YOU PAY THEM
  • SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE
  • AND
  • AND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE MULTI YEAR
  • THEY GO ON FOR SUCH AS THE SOUTH CONCOURSE
  • EVOLUTION WILL GO ON FOR TEN YEARS, PLUS
  • WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT DURING THAT TIMEFRAME AND ADDING MORE AS THEY COME
  • SO IT'S A CONTINUOUS PROCESS OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE INDEPENDENTLY GONE OUT AND THROUGH BIDDING METHODS THAT WE WORK WITH CPO ON, SELECT A FIRM THAT'S THE BEST VALUE TO THE PORT AND MONITOR THEIR WORK
  • AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, USUALLY IN DECEMBER, WE HAVE THOSE FIRMS COME IN AND PRESENT TO YOU THE RESULTS IN THE FINDINGS
  • THEIR FINDINGS
  • NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, MICHELLE
  • AND MY LAST SLIDE IS JUST A GANTT CHART, WHICH REALLY SHOWS WHERE WE ARE IN OUR AUDIT PLAN, THE ONE I JUST SHARED WITH YOU
  • AND ARE WE ON TRACK TO FINISH IT? AND EVERYTHING IN GREEN COMPLETED
  • EVERYTHING IN YELLOW IS IN PROCESS
  • AND THE PINKISH BEIGE ISH COLOR IS THINGS THAT WILL BE DONE IN THE THIRD AND FOURTH QUARTER
  • SO WE ARE ON TRACK, I'M HAPPY TO SAY, TO FINISH THE PLAN
  • WITH THAT
  • I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS IN THIS SECTION
  • MISS HOLMSTROM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION
  • ON THE STRUCTURE VACANT, SENIOR INTERNAL AUDITOR
  • IS THAT UNDER IT OR WHAT? IS THAT? SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, HISTORICALLY, IT'S BEEN A PERFORMANCE AUDIT POSITION THAT WE'VE HAD OPENED
  • AND IF YOU REMEMBER, RUMI OKUMA, WHO WAS OUR SENIOR INTERNAL AUDITOR, DID A LOT OF, BESIDES DOING AUDITS, COMPLIANCE WITH STANDARDS, AND ALSO A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS
  • SHE RECENTLY RETIRED, SO HER POSITION IS OPENED, AND AS WE FILL, THAT WILL DETERMINE WHERE WE BEST NEED THE RESOURCES AND PUT THAT PERSON APPROPRIATELY
  • BUT RUMI WAS A PERFORMANCE AUDITOR, SO BY DEFAULT, IT WOULD BE PERFORMANCE AUDITING
  • OKAY
  • AND THEN ONE OTHER THING I NOTICED ON THE AGING REPORT, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'VE SEPARATED OUT IT
  • THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE IT HELPS ME KNOW THAT, LIKE, THE CONCENTRATION OF ADDRESSED SEEM TO BE CONCENTRATED THERE
  • SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE SEEM TO BE DOING REALLY WELL
  • SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE
  • THANK YOU
  • THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CALKINS
  • AND NONE FOR ME EITHER
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH, GLENN
  • SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO UPDATES AND APPROVALS
  • ITEMS NUMBER FIVE THROUGH SEVEN ON THE AGENDA, THE INTERNAL AUDIT ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE
  • OH, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT
  • WE WENT THROUGH THAT
  • WE'RE MOVING FASTER THAN I CAN KEEP UP WITH
  • ALL RIGHT
  • AND THEN TIME APPROVAL CONTROLS
  • WONDERFUL
  • GO FOR IT
  • THAT IS NEXT
  • SO THE NEXT AUDIT IS TIME APPROVALS, CONTROLS
  • TIME, APPROVALS, CONTROLS
  • THIS IS A PERFORMANCE AUDIT
  • DAN CHASE AND MY TEAM, WHO'S THE MANAGER OF PERFORMANCE AUDIT, COMPLETED THE WORK WITH NICOLE YU, WHO'S THE SENIOR INTERNAL AUDITOR
  • DAN'S GOING TO PRESENT
  • DAN, HAVE A SEAT AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF
  • BUT BEFORE DAN GETS STARTED, I ALSO WANT TO JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND CONTEXT
  • YOU KNOW, THE PORT IS VERY COMPLICATED WITH A LOT OF BARGAINING AGREEMENTS AND DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THINGS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION
  • AND THAT ALL FUNNELS UP TO A PAYROLL DEPARTMENT AFR THAT HAS TO MANAGE ALL OF THIS
  • AND WHEN THERE ARE A LOT OF MANUAL ADJUSTMENTS EVERY TWO WEEKS, IT'S A MAD SCRAMBLE TO GET THINGS DONE AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR TIME IN
  • SO, YOU KNOW, THE AUDIT LOOKED AT OUR, WHAT CAN WE DO? WE LOOKED AT ONE OF THE LARGEST DEPARTMENTS, AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO BREAK THIS DOWN TO BITE SIZED CHUNKS AND TRY TO FIX THE PROCESS AND HELP THE BOARD OUT IN THE PROCESS
  • SO WITH THAT, DAN, THE FLOOR IS YOURS
  • GOOD MORNING OR GOOD NAME IS DAN CHASE
  • I'M AN INTERNAL AUDIT MANAGER WITH THE GROUP
  • THANKS, GLENN
  • AND SO THE PORT OF SEATTLE HAS APPROXIMATELY 2500 EMPLOYEES, BOTH REPRESENTED AND NON REPRESENTED, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW
  • AND OUR AUDIT FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON AVIATION MAINTENANCE AND THE THREE HIGHEST, FROM A HEADCOUNT STANDPOINT
  • SO THE THREE HIGHEST DEPARTMENTS, THE ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRONIC ELECTRONICS SYSTEMS GROUP, MECHANICAL SYSTEMS AND FACILITIES, FLEET SYSTEMS AND GROUNDS
  • AND COLLECTIVELY, IT'S ABOUT 375 EMPLOYEES
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • SO THE EMPLOYEES ARE SUPPOSED TO ENTER THEIR TIME INTO MAXIMO, AND THAT'S A SUBSYSTEM, AND THEY HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR 40 HOURS, REGARDLESS IF THEY ACTUALLY WORK 40 HOURS
  • SO IF THERE'S OVERTIME, VACATION, SICK LEAVE, IT HAS TO EQUAL AT LEAST 40 HOURS
  • IDEALLY, THE SUPERVISORS WILL REVIEW THEIR TIME, THEIR PEOPLE'S TIME, ON A WEEKLY BASIS, AND THEN AT THE END OF TWO WEEKS, IT'S SUBMITTED FROM MAXIMO AND UPLOADED INTO PEOPLESOFT
  • THERE'S AN AV TIME ADMINISTRATOR THAT'S
  • AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT
  • IT'S KIND OF AN INTERMEDIARY STEP WHERE BETWEEN THE EMPLOYEE THAT'S SUBMITTING THE TIME AND THE ACTUAL MANAGER WHO'S REVIEWING THAT TIME, AND THAT TIME ADMINISTRATOR LOOKS FOR, YOU KNOW, ERRORS OR ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO OCCUR, AND THEN THEY WILL EMAIL THE EMPLOYEE AND THE SUPERVISOR FOR THEM TO REMEDIATE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • AND SO SOME OF THE ERRORS OR THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE CAUGHT, THERE HAS TO BE 40 HOURS OF TIME ACCOUNTED FOR
  • AND SO SOMETIMES EMPLOYEES WILL ENTER 20 HOURS, AND SO THEY'LL NEED TO TRACK THAT DOWN
  • THERE'S ALL EMPLOYEES ARE SUPPOSED TO ENTER AT LEAST EIGHT OR 10 HOURS PER DAY, DEPENDING ON THEIR SCHEDULE
  • AND THEN, AS I SAID, THE ADJUSTMENTS ARE EMAILED BACK TO THE EMPLOYEE AND THE MANAGER TO RESOLVE TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF THE NUMBER OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE REQUIRED
  • IN 2023, THERE WERE 3400 ADJUSTMENTS
  • AND SO THAT MEANS THAT IT GOES TO PEOPLESOFT, AND THEN THERE'S A NEED TO GO BACK AND CHANGE AND READJUST AND CORRECT WHAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED
  • THERE'S BEEN SOME WORK DONE BY OUR PROCESS IMPROVEMENT TEAM, AND SO I THINK IT'S TRENDING DOWN
  • THERE WERE 430 ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED THROUGH APRIL OF 2024
  • SO THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • SO WE DID HAVE A COUPLE HIGH RATED ISSUES THAT I'LL GO OVER NOW, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE BRENDA LYNN, WHO'S OUR SENIOR MANAGER WITHIN THE AVM GROUP, AND THEN MIKE TASKER, THE DIRECTOR OVER AVM, ARE ON THE LINE AS WELL
  • SO WHY DON'T I GO THROUGH THE ISSUE AND THEN PAUSE FOR MANAGEMENT TO RESPOND? SO REALLY, THERE'S NO REALLY FORMAL, SUSTAINABLE PROCESS THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW
  • IT'S A BIT DISJOINTED AND FRAGMENTED
  • SOME, WHEN YOU ASK, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE FOREMEN ARE REVIEWING TIME, SOME SAY THEY DO IT DAILY, OTHERS SAY THEY DO IT WEEKLY
  • SOME SAY THEY DON'T
  • THEY WAIT FOR THE AV ADMINISTRATOR TO PERFORM THAT REVIEW BEFORE THEY
  • BEFORE THEY'LL GO IN AND APPROVE PAYROLL
  • AND SO THERE IS KIND OF INCONVENIENCE, CONSISTENCY WITH, FROM PERIOD TO PERIOD HOW MANY ERRORS ARE OCCURRING
  • WE REALLY WANT TO ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, A SUSTAINABLE AND REPEATABLE PROCESS THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS AND FOLLOWS
  • THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THIS GETS TO
  • SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE
  • SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE IS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A TIME, A PUNCH TIME SYSTEM FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL
  • AND I THINK IT'S PRETTY COMMON IN THE INDUSTRY FOR THAT TYPE OF SYSTEM TO BE IN PLACE
  • FORMAL TRAINING IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING TO REMIND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR EMPLOYEES TO ENTER THEIR TIME CORRECTLY
  • ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD IS IF THERE COULD BE SOME CONSEQUENCES, NOT NECESSARILY PEOPLE PUNITIVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOME MECHANISM THAT WE COULD USE TO, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE FREQUENTLY MAKING ERRORS, THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL
  • SO WE HAVE BRENDA LYNN AND MIKE
  • I DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO TAKE THAT, BUT I SEE MIKE UP THERE
  • MIKE, I'LL START AGAIN
  • MIKE TASKER, DIRECTOR OF MAINTENANCE
  • THANKS, GLENN AND DAN
  • GLENN SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES EARLIER WITH CONSISTENCY, WITH EVERY UNION, LABOR UNION HAVING DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS ON HOW THINGS GET DONE
  • AND I SAY, I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THANK THE GROUP WHO'S WENT THROUGH THIS, AND WE AGREE THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNTABILITY FOR EVERYBODY'S TIME
  • WE'RE PAYING PEOPLE FROM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS FUND THAT PAYS FOR STAFF, THAT WE GOT TO HAVE GOOD SYSTEMS IN PLACE
  • SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT
  • WE'VE GOT TO DO SOME THINGS AND WE GOT TO WORK THROUGH SOME THINGS
  • I SAID I WANT TO BEGIN WITH THE REQUIREMENTS
  • AS SOON AS WE DEFINE WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, WE WILL LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS
  • SO THEN WE DEFINE WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE
  • THEN IT BECOMES JUST MATH
  • THE EXISTING PROCESS, AS DAN AND GLENN HAVE MENTIONED, IS, YOU KNOW, WITH MAXIMO, YOU KNOW, ONE EMPLOYEE MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, 50 LINE ITEMS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN OVER A COURSE OF TWO WEEKS
  • AND IT'S JUST, THAT'S BACK TO THE 3000 CORRECTIONS
  • IF YOU MISS SOMETHING AND YOU DON'T ACTUALLY COME UP WITH YOUR 80 HOURS IN TWO WEEKS, IT'S AN ERROR, IT'S A FINDING
  • AND, YOU KNOW, AS A MANAGER, IF THE MANAGER HAS 65 PEOPLE TO DO THAT, THAT BECOMES TOO MUCH FOR A MANAGER
  • THEN THAT BECOMES A CHALLENGE FOR THE TIMEKEEPER BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY ONE TIMEKEEPER CAN LOOK AT 460 PEOPLE'S TIME AND ACCURATELY VALIDATE THAT
  • SO HE SAID, WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE REQUIREMENT AND THEN WE'LL LOOK TO RESOURCE REQUIREMENTS
  • SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THE PERSON, PERSON CLOSEST TO THE WORK DO THE VALIDATION, WHICH IS MOST LIKELY THE FOREMAN
  • BUT WE'VE GOT TO DO, YOU KNOW, PROCESS
  • THEN WE GOT TO TRAIN
  • THE TIME CLOCK THING IS A GREAT IDEA THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO
  • THERE MAY BE SOME BARGAINING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO TO IMPLEMENT THAT
  • BUT I THINK THAT COULD SIMPLIFY IF WE WERE USING A TIME CLOCK FOR PAY
  • YOU KNOW, SOMEONE DID 8 HOURS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT
  • BUT A KEY THING, THING FOR US, FOR OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS KNOWING HOW MUCH TIME EACH ASSET IS TAKING TO DO AND MANAGING THAT
  • SO USING MAXIMO AND HOW MUCH TIME WE SPEND ON THOSE COMPONENTS OF THOSE SYSTEMS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AS WELL
  • SO I DON'T WANT TO COMPLETELY MOVE AWAY FROM THAT
  • BUT WE AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS
  • SO FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, BRENDOLIN CAN ADD OR COMMENTARY IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS
  • YEAH, DAN, YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH THE NEXT ISSUE BEFORE WE GO BACK
  • SO WE FINISHED THE WHOLE LINE
  • OKAY
  • COULD WE GO TO THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES? I THINK, MICHELLE
  • PERFECT
  • YEAH
  • SO THIS IS AROUND THE AMOUNT OF OVERTIME THAT EMPLOYEES CAN WORK AND THERE'S NO LIMIT OR THERE'S NO CAP FOR, YOU KNOW, LIMITED LIMITING HOW MUCH OVERTIME CAN BE WORKING
  • THESE ARE TYPE OF JOBS WHERE THEY'RE WORKING AT HEIGHTS
  • THEY'RE WORKING IN CONFINED SPACES AROUND MACHINERY
  • THERE'S NO ACTUAL
  • WE TALKED WITH OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY DIRECTOR
  • THERE'S NO STATE OR FEDERAL LAW LIMITING THE NUMBERS, BUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD PRACTICE TO PUT THIS IN PLACE
  • AND SO I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE IDENTIFIED
  • THERE WAS ABOUT 74,000 OVERTIME HOURS WORKED
  • AND THAT'S IN 2023
  • THAT'S PRIMARILY IN THE SUMMER AND THE WINTER
  • WE HAD FIVE EMPLOYEES THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF HOURS
  • YOU KNOW, ONE EMPLOYEE HAD 1000 HOURS OF OVERTIME, A COUPLE IN THE, IT LOOKS LIKE 800S FOR A COUPLE OTHERS
  • SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF OVERTIME THAT'S BEING WORKED BY, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • OH, NO, THIS IS GOOD
  • YEAH
  • SO JUST SOME MORE EXAMPLES
  • ONE EMPLOYEE WORKED 34 HOURS SHIFT
  • ANOTHER EMPLOYEE WORKED A 90 HOURS WORKWEEK
  • YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER EXAMPLES THAT I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT THE PORT PAID $8 MILLION IN OVERTIME
  • LABOR COSTS BUDGET AT ABOUT 3.3 MILLION
  • SO IT IS SIZABLE
  • SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS LET'S PUT IN A CAP AND DEVELOP A POLICY SO THAT WE CAN ENFORCE IT
  • AND I KNOW THAT THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, THAT CAN BE A NUANCED AND KIND OF AN INVOLVED PROCESS, BUT I THINK, AND THESE ARE REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES THAT WORK UNDER CBAS
  • SO I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO GET THAT DONE, BUT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO GET IN PLACE
  • AND SO IF MIKE WANTS TO
  • YEAH, MIKE, IF YOU WANT
  • IF YOU CAN RESPOND, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW
  • THANK YOU AGAIN
  • EXCUSE ME, MIKE
  • MIKE
  • WE ALSO MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE FROM LABOR RELATIONS ON THE LINE
  • SO AFTER YOU'VE PRESENTED, IF THEY WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS, OTHERWISE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS
  • MY TED
  • YEAH, WE DO
  • YEAH, WE DO
  • THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE SEEN IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE
  • 34 HOURS DAY, ALL OVERTIME IS CURRENTLY APPROVED BY A MANAGER
  • BUT IT SAYS, HEY, WE NEED YOU TO GET SOMETHING DONE
  • YOU APPROVE IT, AND THEY SEEM TO WORK UNTIL THE JOB IS DONE
  • WE'VE GOT TO ADD BETTER CONTROLS
  • SO WE'RE WORKING ON WORK RULES THAT CAN BE FORMALIZED WITH OUR MAINTENANCE GROUPS THAT SAY, THIS IS ABOUT TIME
  • AND BEYOND THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO ASK AGAIN
  • WE'RE CAUTIOUS ABOUT DOING FORMAL CAPS BECAUSE THE AIRPORT HAS TO
  • WE KEEP THE AIRPORT RUNNING, BUT AS A MANAGER, WE WANT TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES
  • SO IF WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL TIME, WHATEVER THAT TIME IS, IT'S DISCUSSED WITH THE MANAGER, IT'S DISCUSSED WITH THE EMPLOYEE, AND IF THE EMPLOYEE WORKS ADDITIONAL HOURS
  • MAYBE WE PROVIDE A HOTEL FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES TO STAY AND KIND OF LIKE WE DO ON SNOW SO THAT THEY DON'T TRAVEL HOME AFTER THEY'VE WORKED 34 HOURS IN A ROW
  • AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SAFE
  • SO WE'RE STARTING WITH WORK RULES, AND WE AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A PORTWIDE POLICY
  • WE JUST GOTTA BE CAUTIOUS WITH FORMAL CAPS AND LIMITS BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING TO KEEP THE AIRPORT OPEN
  • BUT, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF GREG'S ON IF HE WANTS TO ADD ANY COMMENTARY TO THAT AS WELL
  • GOOD AFTERNOON AND GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AND SUCH IMPORTANT WORK, AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE
  • FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT
  • GREG, CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD? OH, SORRY
  • I APOLOGIZE
  • I'M GREG GOTHE
  • I'M A LABOR RELATIONS MANAGER HERE AT THE PORT OF SEATTLE, ASSIGNED TO SOME OF OUR AVIATION MAINTENANCE WORKGROUPS, AND WE HAVE GREAT PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR FRIENDS ON THE LABOR SIDE
  • SO NONE OF THEM, IN MY OPINION, WOULD BE SHOCKED IF WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING SOME ADDITIONAL SAFETY ANALYSIS AND AMENDING OUR WORK RULES TO INCLUDE SOME LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT RELATIVE TO OVERTIME, WHICH MOST OF THEM WOULD PROBABLY AGREE ALREADY EXISTED, EXISTS IN TERMS OF OUR MANAGEMENT RIGHTS
  • AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT OPPORTUNITY JUST TO NOTIFY THEM AND PARTNER WITH THEM
  • SO IN TERMS OF OBSTACLES, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN OBSTACLE
  • IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE CHALLENGE, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, OUR PARTNERS ARE ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF THEIR UNION MEMBERS
  • MIKE IS RIGHT RELATIVE TO SORT OF PUTTING A BLANKET APPROACH ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS, BECAUSE IN THE AIRPORT ENVIRONMENT, YOU DO HAVE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO ACHIEVE
  • AND THOUGH WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFFING TO MEET THOSE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS REQUIREMENTS, THERE MAY BE A RARE CASE IN WHICH WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WORK THAT'S ABLE AND SAFELY CAN ACHIEVE THE OBJECTIVES BEYOND A CERTAIN PARAMETER, AND THAT'S TRUE WITH OUR SECURITY APPARATUS AS WELL
  • SO WE DEFINITELY ARE PARTNERS IN ACHIEVING THESE VERY IMPORTANT OBJECTIVES
  • AND I JUST DON'T THINK THE HEADWINDS ARE GOING TO BE THAT STRONG
  • AS LONG AS WE COMMUNICATE OFTEN WITH OUR PARTNERS, WE WANT THEM TO BUY IN, AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD ABOUT BUYING IN WHEN WE TIE INTO A VERY CLEAR OBJECTIVE THAT'S LINKED TO THE PORT'S MISSION STATEMENT
  • AND SO WE'RE PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION IN ANY WHICH WAY WE CAN
  • OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ONE MORE LOW RISK ISSUE THAT DAN'S GONNA
  • I'LL JUST GO THROUGH IT REAL QUICKLY
  • YEAH, IT'S
  • NEXT SLIDE
  • IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS MISSING DOCUMENTATION TO SUBSTANTIATE, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY WAS ON SICK LEAVE OR LEAVE WITHOUT PAY OR FMLA, ETCETERA
  • SO IT'S JUST A GOOD PRACTICE TO BE ABLE TO SUBSTANTIATE EVIDENCE WHY SOMEBODY'S OUT OF THE OFFICE WHEN IT'S REQUESTED
  • SO A LOW RATED ISSUE
  • AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS JUST SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU RETAIN THE DOCUMENTATION
  • AND THAT'S
  • YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT
  • WELL, I WOULD SAY THE EMPLOYEE WOULD BE NUMBER ONE, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE SUPERVISOR, BECAUSE THEY'RE ULTIMATELY APPROVING IT AND PROBABLY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, OR SHOULD BE
  • ANYWAY, IF THAT CONCLUDES YOUR PRESENTATION, THEN I'LL TURN TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
  • GO FOR IT
  • MISS HOLMSTROM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE
  • ONE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND
  • SO IT SOUNDS LIKE CURRENTLY, THE TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM IS NOT A CALKINS, CLOCK OUT
  • IS IT, LIKE ONLINE, YOU JUST FILL OUT YOUR HOURS SYSTEM? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? THERE'S A SYSTEM CALLED MAXIMO THAT THEY PUT IN WHATEVER JOB THEY'RE WORKING ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS IN A DAY, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT SHOULD BE 8 HOURS, 10 HOURS
  • AND YOU CAN DO THAT FROM ANYWHERE AT THE PORT IF THEY'VE GOT THEIR SYSTEMS BUT I'M GUESSING YOU CAN DO IT REMOTELY AS WELL
  • I IMAGINE YOU CAN
  • I DON'T KNOW
  • COULD ENTER MY HOURS FROM YESTERDAY, TODAY? YEAH
  • YEAH, YOU COULD
  • YOU COULD DO IT
  • YOU COULD DO IT DAILY
  • YOU COULD DO IT WEEKLY
  • I THINK SOME EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE, IS THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING IT AFTER THE FACT
  • SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE
  • IT SOUNDS LIKE MANAGEMENT AGREED, LIKE THE CALKINS, CLOCK OUT SYSTEM WOULD
  • I'M NOT SAYING WE WOULD HAVE TO GET RID OF THE OTHER THERE'S SOME REALLY IMPORTANT RECORD KEEPING OF WHAT JOB THEY'RE ON, SO YOU CAN ACCURATELY TRACK COSTS AND STUFF
  • BUT A CALKINS, CLOCK OUT SYSTEM THAT IS LIMITED TO ACCESS AT THE PORT AT THE TIME THEY'RE HERE WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY COMPOUNDING THAT WITH THE AMOUNT OF OVERTIME WE'RE SEEING
  • AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S ALARMING TO ME
  • ME, IS, LIKE, WHEN WE'RE AUDITING, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY EMPLOYEE
  • LIKE, WE PICK A SMALL SUBSET OF PEOPLE
  • SO WHEN YOU SEE THESE KIND OF EXAMPLES OF, LIKE, MASSIVE OVERTIME, THAT'S REALLY CONCERNING TO ME, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYBODY
  • SO I'M CONCERNED OF THE ACCURACY OF THAT
  • AND THEN COUPLE THAT WITH LIKE, THE FACT THAT WE'RE SAYING THERE ISN'T CONSISTENT REVIEW AND APPROVAL AND DOCUMENTATION OF THAT FOR THIS
  • OVER TIME
  • IT SEEMS LIKE PERVASIVELY THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE HAVE SOME HOLES THAT SOMEONE COULD, IF THEY WANTED TO MANIPULATE THE SYSTEM PRETTY EASILY
  • AND THAT'S PRETTY CONCERNING TO THE TUNE OF, YOU KNOW, $8 MILLION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE
  • THE OTHER THING I WONDER, THAT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE THIS WHOLE TIME ADMINISTRATOR PROCESS THAT SEEMS TO MANAGE THE LOWER END OF LIKE, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE 80 HOURS
  • WHY DON'T WE LIKE, FLAG THE UPPER END? WHY DON'T WE JUST ADD LIKE ALSO SOME AUTO IT
  • OBVIOUSLY THE SYSTEM CAN AUTO HIGHLIGHT, HEY, THIS PERSON ONLY HAS 76 HOURS
  • WE NEED TO CORRECT IT
  • I'M NOT SURE WHY IT CAN'T SAY THIS PERSON HAS OVER 120
  • THAT SHOULD FLAG AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN HAVE BOTH SIDES BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE OTHER SIDE IS WHERE THERE'S SOME ISSUES
  • YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD
  • THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS ANY EMPLOYEE FROM WORKING, YOU KNOW, 120 HOURS PER, YOU KNOW
  • RIGHT
  • YEAH, I MEAN, BUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD REPORTING TOOL TO KIND OF MONITOR THAT
  • I MEAN, I THINK EVEN JUST HIGHLIGHTING IT UP OF LIKE, EVEN, AGAIN, LIKE A REPORT OR SOMETHING GENERATED, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE MAYBE WITHIN THIS TEAM OR IT COMES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE COMMISSION OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OF LIKE, HEY, THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WORKED OVER 120 HOURS A WEEK CONSISTENTLY OR SOMETHING THAT JUST LIKE HIGH LEVEL, AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO PEOPLE'S NAMES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST HIGH LEVEL TO HIGH HIGHLIGHT TO, AGAIN, JUST SHOW THAT SOMEBODY'S LOOKING AND THAT WE'RE TRACKING
  • LIKE, GENERALLY WHEN THERE'S LIKE EXCESSIVE PROBLEMS WITH LIKE OVERTIME AND LIKE, I MEAN, THERE'S THE SAFETY THING, THERE'S THE ACCURACY PIECE
  • AND AGAIN, ALL THESE THINGS KIND OF TIE TOGETHER IN MY MIND TO JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THAT SOMEONE'S LOOKING
  • BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, FROM EVERYTHING I'M HEARING HERE, IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM AN EMPLOYEE'S PERSPECTIVE, IT VERY MUCH WOULD FEEL LIKE NOBODY IS LOOKING, LIKE THIS ISN'T BEING REGULARLY MANAGED OR
  • YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD COMMENTS
  • AS WE WERE TALKING WITH PEOPLE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE WOULD ASK IS WHO'S ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE? WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACCURACY OF WHAT'S SUBMITTED? AND WE WOULD GET DIFFERENT RESPONSES
  • WELL, IT'S SUPERVISOR
  • WELL, NO, IT'S ACTUALLY THE MANAGER, IT'S THE TIME ADMINISTRATOR
  • SO THERE'S KIND OF, IT'S NOT REAL DEFINED AND IT'S NOT REAL CLEAR, LIKE WHO'S REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PAYROLL
  • I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY
  • THE EMPLOYEE HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ENTERING THEIR TIME CORRECTLY, BUT THEY CAN'T REVIEW THEIR OWN TIME
  • IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE
  • RIGHT
  • SO, YEAH
  • AND, SARAH, TO ADD ONE MORE THING, I BELIEVE THE TIME ADMINISTRATOR IS JUST SWAMPED WITH JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE 80 HOURS, 80 MINUTES, HOURS A DAY IS IN TRACKING DOWN PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THEIR TIME IN AND GETTING THAT CLEANED UP
  • SO THE OVERSIGHT THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS A GREAT IDEA, GREAT RECOMMENDATION
  • AND I GOT, I'M SURE MIKE IS LISTENING
  • AND MIKE, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO ANSWER AS WELL
  • I'M GOING TO DEFER TO BRENDOLIN BECAUSE SHE'S GOT HER HAND UP
  • SO I THINK SHE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THAT
  • CAN YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD? YES, ABSOLUTELY
  • BRENDA LANTELLA MAY, SENIOR MANAGER OF ASSET MANAGEMENT AND LOGISTICS FOR AVIATION MAINTENANCE
  • THANK YOU
  • GO AHEAD
  • I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE COMMENTARY THAT WAS MADE AND TO CLARIFY THAT OVERSIGHT PIECE
  • SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OVERSIGHT, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE CONTROLS PIECE
  • ON TIME APPROVAL FROM WEEK TO WEEK FOR PAYROLL
  • THE ACTUAL OVERTIME PROCESS, IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED
  • AND WE DO HAVE REPORTS REPORTING ON OVERTIME NOT ONLY WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO, I KNOW OUR AVIATION FINANCE AND BUDGET FOLKS ALSO LOOK AT OUR OVERTIME
  • SO THAT IS WELL DOCUMENTED
  • AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD
  • WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OVERTIME PROCESS HERE
  • THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN A PREVIOUS AUDIT
  • AND WE'VE GOT CONTROLS IN PLACE FOR PRE APPROVAL, OVERTIME TO APPROVAL TO WIN ITS WORK AND DOCUMENT IT
  • AND THAT IS WELL UNDERWAY
  • I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE TIME APPROVAL PIECE AND THE CONTROLS PIECE
  • AND I THINK WE ARE RECOGNIZING AS A DEPARTMENT THAT OUR SUPERVISORS IN THE FIELD DO NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR TIME BEING WORKED FROM EMPLOYEES AND THE ACCURACY OF THAT TIME REPORTING
  • SO I WANTED TO ADD THAT IN THERE BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE THE COMMENTARY, I'M SORRY, I DON'T SEE YOUR NAME, BUT BASICALLY IT'S NOT THE OVERTIME
  • I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT
  • THERE IS OVERSIGHT ON THE OVERTIME
  • AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS MASSIVE HOURS OF OVERTIME
  • AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE HAVEN'T IMPOSED A CAP OR WE HAVEN'T, YOU, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY STATED IN OUR, IN OUR DEPARTMENT WORK ROLES ABOUT OVERTIME
  • THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH AS A RESULT OF THIS AUDIT
  • THANK YOU VERY MUCH
  • ALL RIGHT, BACK TO MISS HOLMSTROM FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
  • I GUESS I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WITH THE AUDIT TEAM HERE
  • THEN, LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE THIS NUMBER, THIS FIRST RECOMMENDATION OF THERE'S NO FORMAL REVIEW PROCESS OF THE EMPLOYEE'S TIMESHEETS
  • SO ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY JUST IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS JUST MADE? SO IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S NOTING THERE IS ADEQUATE CONTROLS AND APPROVALS AND DOCUMENTATION OF OVERTIME, JUST NOT OF TIMESHEETS
  • DID YOU GUYS LOOK AT THAT, OR WAS THAT OUT OF SCOPE FOR THIS AUDIT? THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION
  • WELL, SO WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE OVERTIME PROCESS
  • RIGHT
  • WE JUST LOOKED AT THE PROCESS TO APPROVE PAYROLL
  • RIGHT
  • AND THEN IF THAT INCLUDED OVERTIME, THEN THAT WAS, THAT WAS INCLUDED AS WELL
  • BUT WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE OVERTIME FROM THAT
  • SO IF WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE WAS LACK OF DOCUMENTATION AROUND IT, THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE OVERTIME, THEN
  • RIGHT
  • RIGHT
  • IF THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OVERTIME DOCUMENTATION IN THERE AND THERE WASN'T, THEN THAT WOULD INCLUDE BEING INCLUDED IN THIS RECOMMENDATION
  • NOTE OF DISJOINTED APPROVAL AND INCONSISTENT APPROVAL PROCESS
  • OKAY, GO AHEAD, DAN
  • CAN I RESPOND TO THAT SPECIFIC COMMENT? SO WHAT WAS CALLED OUT IN THE AUDIT REPORT IN TERMS OF DOCUMENTATION HAD TO DO WITH LEAVE? APPROVAL OF LEAVE? WE'VE GOT TWO EMPLOYEE GROUPS WHO STILL USE A PAPER LEAVE CALL
  • RIGHT
  • AND SO IN THE AUDIT REPORT, WHAT YOU ALL CALLED OUT WAS YOU COULD NOT FIND DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT LEAVE APPROVAL TIME
  • IT WAS NOT RELATED TO OVERTIME, AND IT WAS NOT RELATED TO THE EMPLOYEES TIME
  • IT WAS WHEN AN EMPLOYEE REQUESTED LEAVE
  • YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND DOCUMENTATION ON WHEN THE MANAGER APPROVED THAT LEAVE
  • AND THE SHOPS THAT WERE CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY ARE THE ONES THAT USE A PAPER COPY
  • THE FORM
  • THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT IS ON AN ELECTRONIC FORM, SO JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE, DAN
  • BUT FROM WHAT WE READ IN THE AUDIT AND RESPONDED TO, IT WAS RELATED TO THE LEAVE REQUEST AND IT WAS RELATED TO THE FMLA DOCUMENTATION
  • YEAH
  • I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE DOCUMENTATION
  • LOW RATED ISSUE THAT WE HAVE AT THE END
  • YEAH
  • SO I THINK
  • YEAH
  • AND SARAH, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST ISSUE ABOUT THE OVERALL APPROVAL PROCESS OF PAYROLL, WHICH INCLUDES OVERTIME
  • OKAY
  • CORRECT
  • THANKS
  • THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION
  • THAT'S HELPFUL, EVERYBODY
  • AND ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS HOLMSTROM
  • COMMISSIONER CALKINS
  • WHAT I HAVEN'T HEARD TODAY IS A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER THIS AMOUNT OF OVERTIME INDICATES THAT WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED
  • AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR
  • DID WE EXPLORE WHETHER WE'RE CHRONICALLY UNDERSTAFFED AND HAVE FAILED TO FILL POSITIONS OR
  • YEAH, SO I GUESS MAYBE WE COULD ADDRESS THAT FIRST
  • YEAH, SO WE DID ASK THAT QUESTION, AND WHAT WE HEARD IS, AND MIKE, YOU CAN CHIME IN IF YOU HEARD OTHERWISE, BUT WE'VE BEEN UNDERSTAFFED IN CERTAIN AREAS AT ABOUT, I THINK IT'S ABOUT, WE'RE STAFFED AT ABOUT 70%
  • SO IT WAS ABOUT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS ABOUT 30% THAT WERE
  • AND IT'S BEEN CONSISTENT FOR SOME TIME
  • SO THAT WAS PART OF THE NEED FOR THE OVERTIME
  • WE SPECIFICALLY ASK THAT QUESTION
  • THANK YOU FOR THAT, DAN
  • YES
  • AND COMMISSIONER, I GOT TO SAY NOW, MAINTENANCE, THE BEST WE CAN HOPE FOR IS MINIMUM STAFFING, BECAUSE WE USE DATA TO BASICALLY TRY TO DEFINE OUR STAFFING NUMBERS
  • SO WITH ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, WE SAY YOU BUILD A NEW ASSET
  • THIS WORK TAKES THIS MUCH TIME
  • SO WE BUILD NEW, WE FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES, THEN WE PROVE THAT IT TAKES THIS MUCH TIME
  • THEN WE USE THE DATA TO HIRE A STAFF MEMBER
  • SO THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TIME THAT EMPLOYEE IS AVAILABLE WITH REQUIREMENTS FOR TRAINING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA
  • AND THAT KIND OF DETERMINES OUR STAFFING LEVELS
  • AND THEN WE HAVE THE CHALLENGE OF FMLA PTO RETIREMENTS AND THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET PEOPLE HIRED
  • SO THE AIRPORT IS A DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT, AND WE GOT TO KEEP THE AIRPORT RUNNING SO IT DOES LEND ITSELF TO OVERTIME
  • AND THOSE, THOSE LARGE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THERE, I THINK THOSE WERE ON THE FIELD SIDE
  • SO THERE RESPONSE
  • AND DURING SNOW THAT THESE TEAMS GO TO TWELVE HOUR DAYS, AND THEY WILL STAY ON TWELVE HOUR DAYS UNTIL THE SNOW EVENT IS OVER
  • AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH EMPLOYEES SPECIFICALLY, BUT CHEER POINT COMMISSIONER CALKINS, IS SOME OF IT STAFFING? DEFINITELY
  • BUT WE TRY TO MAINTAIN A STAFFING WHERE WE'RE LEAN
  • WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE SITTING AROUND
  • SO SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF OVERTIME VERSUS HAVING PEOPLE SITTING AROUND WHEN IT'S SLOW
  • AND, MIKE, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THE EXCEPTIONS THAT WE SAW WERE CENTERED AROUND THE OCTOBER TIMEFRAME
  • SO THERE MIGHT BE SNOW RELATED ONES, BUT THEY WERE ALSO HAPPENING IN OCTOBER WHEN WE DON'T HAVE SNOW
  • ALL RIGHT, THANKS
  • SECOND, MY SECOND QUESTION IS IN REGARD TO THE FIRST FINDING AROUND TIMESHEETS AND APPROVALS, DID WE FIND THESE SAME, I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T DONE A COMPREHENSIVE AUDIT OF ALL DEPARTMENTS PORT OF SEATTLE, BUT WHAT I'M HOPING IS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND SOME POSITIVE DEVIATION FROM THIS, THAT WE COULD MODEL CORRECTIVE ACTION ON FOR DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE ARE SEEING THESE ISSUES
  • SO IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE A DEPARTMENT WHERE WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE CONSISTENTLY TURN IN THEIR TIME CARDS ACCURATELY AND ON TIME WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD PROCESS? AND I SAY THIS, LET ME BE JUST SORT OF DIVULGE THAT WHEN I STARTED A NEW JOB IN JANUARY, 1 OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT I HAD TO MAKE WAS NOW I'M NEEDING TO PUT IN PROJECT BILLING AND KEEP TRACK OF LOTS OF DIFFERENT CODES FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT I'M WORKING ON
  • AND IT IS A PAIN IN THE BUTT
  • I AGREE
  • AND I MAKE MISTAKES AND I FORGET TO TURN IT IN ON FRIDAY EVENING
  • AND SO I CAN ABSOLUTELY RELATE TO PORT STAFF WHO FORGET AT TIMES
  • AND SO I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WAYS WHERE, WHERE ARE PLACES YOU GUYS DOING SO WELL THAT YOU'RE GETTING THIS IN? AND CAN WE ADOPT THAT IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE NEED TO BRING THAT UP, WHETHER IT'S A PIZZA PARTY WHEN WE ALL GET IT DONE OR I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GAMIFY IT, BUT WHETHER THAT'S PHYSICAL PUNCH CLOCKS, JUST SOMETHING TO BRING THIS UP
  • SO
  • YEAH
  • AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS WHEN I APPROVE PAYROLL SALARIED EMPLOYEES, WE'RE NOT TRACKING OUR TIME BY HOUR
  • RIGHT
  • AND SO IT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD
  • THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THERE'S HOURLY AND THERE'S DIFFERENT TIME CODES AND THERE'S MORE PEOPLE
  • OUR CONTINUOUS PROCESS IMPROVEMENT TEAM HAS DONE SOME WORK IN OTHER AREAS AND THEY'VE IMPROVED THEIR PAYROLL PROCESS
  • I THINK THERE WILL ALWAYS BE, YOU KNOW, EXCEPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK THROUGH
  • BUT I, BUT ONE OF THE, I THINK MIKE TASKER AND, AND BRENDA LYNN HAVE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO OUR PROCESS IMPROVEMENT TEAM TO HELP THEM WITH IT
  • GREAT
  • AND THERE IS A TEAM THAT'S LOOKING AT IT PORT WIDE
  • SO HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE CAN BE INTEGRATED INTO THEIR WORK AS WELL
  • BUT, COMMISSIONER, IT STARTS WITH, IF AN EMPLOYEE DOESN'T ENTER AYE
  • OR HER TIME, THEN IT JUST BECOMES HARDER AND SNOWBALLS FROM THERE
  • SO YOU GOT TO START WITH PUTTING YOUR TIME IN ON A STRUCTURED BASIS AND BUILDS FROM THERE
  • WE'RE 15 MINUTES MORE
  • SO BACK TO YOU FOR ASKING
  • THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS
  • WONDERFUL
  • WELL, THAT CONCLUDES THIS PORTION
  • THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION
  • THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY ONLINE WHO LENDED THEIR EXPERTISE
  • WE'RE AT THE LIMITED CONTRACT COMPLIANCE AUDIT SECTION OF OUR AGENDA
  • ITEMS 1011 ARE AUDIT REPORT ON 1915 CASEY HOUSE
  • OH, COMMISSIONER, WE SKIPPED AN AUDIT
  • SO WE SKIPPED
  • WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH THE PARK AND GARAGE ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION, ITEM NINE
  • ITEM NINE
  • PLEASE TAKE US THROUGH, GLENN
  • THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER
  • ITEM NINE IS PARK AND GARAGE ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION PROJECT
  • IT'S CAPITAL AUDIT, AND I'M GOING TO INVITE SPENCER BRIGHT FROM MY TEAM, CAPITAL AUDIT MANAGER, AND KEREM ONAUT, WHO'S THE SENIOR INTERNAL AUDITOR THAT DID THE AUDIT, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM GUIDANCE TO FLY THROUGH IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE 15 MINUTES TO GET THROUGH THIS
  • SPENCER, THE FLOOR IS YOURS
  • GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND MISS HOLMSTROM
  • I'M SPENCER BRIGHT, CAPITAL PROJECTS AUDIT MANAGER
  • AND WITH ME TODAY IS KARIM ONAT
  • HE'S SENIOR AUDITOR AND WAS THE LEAD AUDITOR ON THIS PROJECT
  • GIVEN OUR TIME, I THINK I WILL SKIP THE HISTORY OF THE PARKING GARAGE ELEVATOR PROJECT AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE
  • SO ONE BACK, PLEASE
  • THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT FOR THIS PROJECT WAS $8.5 MILLION WITH AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE AROUND JANUARY OF 2024
  • THERE HAVE BEEN APPROXIMATELY 800 APPROVED DAYS ADDED TO THE SCHEDULE, AND THIS WAS PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF A PORT ADDENDA ERROR MADE DURING THE PROCUREMENT PROCUREMENT PHASE
  • AND NOW THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE IS MARCH OF 2026
  • THE CURRENT PROJECTED FINAL CONTRACT IS APPROXIMATELY $12.8 MILLION, AND THIS INCLUDES $4 MILLION IN APPROVED CHANGE ORDERS AND $300,000 IN POTENTIAL COST RISKS THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN FORMALLY APPROVED OR FINALIZED, AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO KARIM TO GO OVER OUR FINDING AND RECOMMENDATIONS NEXT
  • DURING THE PROCUREMENT STEP, AN IMPORTANT SPECIFICATION SECTION FROM THE ADDENDUM WAS REMOVED, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE CABIN TERRIERS, WHICH LED TO THE SUSPENSION OF THE PROJECT AND EVENTUALLY ADDING 166 DAYS TO THE CHANGE ORDERS, WHICH INCREASED THE TOTAL CONTRACT BY ABOUT 47% OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT VALUE
  • THIS ERROR WAS IDENTIFIED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE
  • WE WERE NOT ABLE TO PINPOINT EXACTLY WHEN THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF STAFF TURNOVER AT THE PORT AT THE TIME AND ALSO SOME DOCUMENTATION, LACK OF DOCUMENTATION ON WHO APPROVED WHAT AND HOW AND WHEN
  • SO I WAS ABLE TO GET CLOSE AS MARCH 4 MARCH 5, 2021
  • BUT THE CURRENT CPO PROCESS REQUIRES THE INVOLVEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS, PROJECT MANAGERS, AND THE RESIDENT ENGINEERS TO APPROVE ANY ADDENDUM
  • HOWEVER, THE PROCESS DOES NOT REQUIRE MAINTAINING THE DOCUMENTATION ON WHO APPROVED IT AND WHY IT WAS APPROVED
  • SO THAT'S WHAT THE FINDING IS ABOUT FOR THIS ONE
  • ADDITIONALLY, ONE SMALL PORTION, THE CHANGE ORDER ONE, DID NOT HAVE THE REQUIRING ESTIMATES, INDEPENDENT ESTIMATES FROM THE PORT
  • ANY CHANGES TO THE CONTRACT THAT IS OVER $50,000 REQUIRES A PORT ESTIMATE FOR CHANGE ORDER ONE
  • THERE WAS NONE
  • SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PORT PERFORMS THAT ESTIMATE
  • I AM SPEAKING A LITTLE FAST BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE MANAGEMENT ALSO HAS TIME TO RESPOND
  • SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, MICHELLE
  • AND THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT KAREN'S GOT, BUT HE'S PRETTY MUCH STATED THAT ALREADY THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FIX OUR PROCESS, ESPECIALLY AS OUR CAPITAL PLAN, CAPITAL DEPLOYMENT GROWS AND WE BECOME LARGER
  • THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE MAKING, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT
  • SO WITH THAT, I'LL ASK ANGELA PETERSON AND BRIAN SLEET TO COME UP AND PROVIDE A MANAGEMENT RESPONSE
  • ANGELA PETERSON, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF
  • ANGELA PETERSON, INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF CPO
  • THANK YOU
  • NEW TITLES
  • SO I HAD TO REMEMBER THAT ONE
  • GOOD MORNING
  • I'M BRIAN SWEET, THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT
  • THANK YOU
  • WELCOME
  • SO I'LL SPEAK FIRST
  • SO, YEAH, A MISTAKE WAS MADE BACK IN 2021
  • THE PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER HERE TO TRY TO TRACK DOWN WHAT HAPPENED
  • SO WE DID REVIEW OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, AND WE DID GO AHEAD AND GET MORE DETAILED ON THAT
  • THAT REVIEW FROM THE PROJECT TEAM, WHEN ANY ADDENDUMS ARE MADE, WILL BE FORMALLY SAVED
  • THAT CORRESPONDENCE WILL BE SAVED TO THE FILE
  • SO THAT WILL HELP US TO ENSURE THAT ALL PEOPLE ON THE TEAM WILL REVIEW ALL THE ADDENDA
  • AND IF SOMETHING GETS DELETED OUT BY ACCIDENT, SOMEONE WILL CATCH IT
  • AND AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, TOO, THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM LEADERS, AS WE'RE NOW CALLING THEM, SOME OTHER TITLE CHANGE THAT TOOK PLACE ON MONDAY
  • THEY'LL ALSO SIGN OFF ON THE ADDENDUM BEFORE IT IS ISSUED TO CONTRACTORS TO BID ON
  • SO THAT WAY, BOTH THE PROCUREMENT OFFICE AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS AND WILL HAVE HAD A LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS TYPE OF ERROR DOESN'T OCCUR AGAIN
  • ANYTHING ELSE? BACK TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS
  • MY COLLEAGUES, COMMISSIONER CALKINS
  • SO, AS I WAS READING THROUGH THIS AND IN A QUICK CONVERSATION WITH GLENN BEFORE THE MEETING, ONE QUESTION I DIDN'T ASK
  • SO THERE WAS A MISTAKE THAT LEFT SOMETHING OUT THAT THEN HAD TO BE CHANGED IN THE CONTRACT LATER
  • BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT THE MISTAKE ITSELF CAUSED THE ADDITIONAL COST OR IF WE JUST FAILED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FULL COST OF WHAT THE PROJECT WOULD ACTUALLY OCCUR
  • AND THEREFORE, THE CHANGE ORDERS, LIKE THE MATERIAL SPECIFICATIONS THAT WERE REMOVED ABOUT THE INTERIORS OF THE CABS
  • AND BECAUSE THE SPECIFICATIONS WERE NOT IN THE CONTRACT, IN THE BIDDING DOCUMENTS, THE BIDDERS USED SOME GENERIC MATERIAL
  • SO WE WANTED SOMETHING NICER
  • WE WANTED SOMETHING NICER
  • FINGERPRINT RESISTANT MAINTENANCE
  • YEAH
  • SO, I MEAN, I FEEL BAD FOR WHOEVER MADE THE MISTAKE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE SUCH A HUGE AMOUNT, BUT IT'S THAT WE SAID, WE DIDN'T SAY WE WANT THIS PARTICULAR THING
  • AND SO THEY BID A LOWER AMOUNT
  • AS SOON AS UNDERSTOOD THAT WE NEEDED SOMETHING NICER, THE BID WENT UP
  • AND THERE WAS A LOT OF, LIKE
  • I MEAN, THERE WAS SOME FRICTION THERE THAT COST SOME REAL MONEY, BUT IT WASN'T A $3.5 MILLION CLERICAL ERROR
  • SOME MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT CLERICAL ERROR TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED TO SPEND $3.5 MILLION TO GET A NICER THING
  • YES, BUT PARTIALLY ALSO, IT COINCIDED WITH THE WAR IN UKRAINE AND COVID, PERIOD
  • SO WE DID LOOK INTO THE NICKEL PRICES AND SILVER
  • IT'S NOT SILVER
  • SORRY
  • STEEL
  • STEEL PRICES
  • SO IF WE HAD ORDERED IT EARLIER, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CHEAP? IT COULD HAVE BEEN
  • AT THIS POINT, IT'S A SPECIFIC SPECULATION, BUT YES
  • OKAY
  • THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION, AND I APPRECIATE BOTH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE MANAGEMENT RESPONSE TO ENSURE THAT THIS KIND OF ERROR DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT APPRECIATE IT
  • THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER
  • ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION AND MOVING FORWARD
  • REGARDING LIMITED CONTRACT COMPLIANCE AUDITS, THEY'RE ONLY DISCUSSED
  • ISSUES ARE IDENTIFIED
  • MR FERNANDEZ, RELATED TO 1915, CASEY HOUSE CONCEPTS, SEATAC LLC, AND STELLAR BAMBUSA CLLC
  • ARE THERE ANY ISSUES FROM THESE TWO AUDITS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH? NONE TODAY, COMMISSIONER
  • VERY GOOD
  • WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYONE FOR YOUR BODY OF WORK, FOR PRESENTING IT TO US TODAY
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR COLLEAGUES, PARTICULARLY OUR PUBLIC MEMBER, MISS HOLMSTROM, FOR JOINING US TODAY
  • THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S MEETING
  • THANK YOU.

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